Your tooth fairy not mine

@kellyjay said
Are you going to give evidence to support your world view, or just quote from a book you don’t take seriously, or understand?

Are you going to give evidence to support your world view

Will you acknowledge, intellectually speaking, a world view that is based on things like anthropology, psychology, neuroscience, philosophy and biology? Or does it HAVE to be based on theology?

@vivify said
1) What "evidence" did you give? And evidence of what?
2) When did I "demand" evidence for anything?

When you laughed at the statement Christianity was an evidence faith. If you only meant to laugh without making a point so be it.

@kellyjay said
You have evidence for Atheism or whatever it is you believe? Jesus was born, lived, died on a cross, and rose from the dead is evidence and that has altered humanity.

There is no evidence that Jesus rose from the dead. There is an unverifiable story about it.

There is no evidence for atheism either. But the two cases are not equivalent. No one needs evidence to not believe in fairies, kobolds, goblins, or vampires. It’s bizarre that you don’t see the difference. The burden of providing evidence lies with those who believe in such things.

Now, if you want to believe on faith, without evidence, I have no objection.

@moonbus said
There is no evidence that Jesus rose from the dead. There is an unverifiable story about it.

There is no evidence for atheism either. But the two cases are not equivalent. No one needs evidence to not believe in fairies, kobolds, goblins, or vampires. It’s bizarre that you don’t see the difference. The burden of providing evidence lies with those who believe in such things.

Now, if you want to believe on faith, without evidence, I have no objection.

Well, that is your tooth fairy God story, the story we see in reality has been passed down for centuries and have changed the life of those who come to God for His grace and mercy. I have been to the land where these things occurred, there is scripture that was written about Jesus' life before He was born, while He walked the earth as one of us after He died and rose from the dead is there.

Your unverifiable story requirement isn't applied to any thing that is also a singular event, so we decide it isn't worth working out! What is the reasonable explanation, we don't dismiss all murders due to we simply cannot verify the story beyond any doubt.

Every narrative that people put forward to justify their worldviews needs to be held to the same standard, your denial of having to put forward there is no need to suggest to justify the Atheistic worldview is to suggest your tooth fairy cannot be justified. If you want to suggest there are fairies, kobolds, goblins, or vampires you need to produce evidence to show they are real, if you want to suggest mindlessness can produce all of the things that we see and experience, put up your rational, otherwise you have an unreasonable, irrational belief system with no positive reason to accept it.

You are the one without evidence for your worldview, I have given some and you can deny it but its there. Jesus' life we mark time by, the history of Isreal with the documentation of genealogy and the strife we see there is also evidence. Your denial simply shows even with something you can see, you can read about, can look into human history even with non-religious sources you can see Jesus' life documented. So your denial only shows you simply don't want to acknowledge, because it is there for all to see.

@kellyjay said
You are the one without evidence for your worldview, I have given some and you can deny it but its there.

Are you only interested in theology-based worldviews and those rooted in superstition/the supernatural?

@moonbus said
There is no evidence that Jesus rose from the dead. There is an unverifiable story about it.

There is no evidence for atheism either. But the two cases are not equivalent. No one needs evidence to not believe in fairies, kobolds, goblins, or vampires. It’s bizarre that you don’t see the difference. The burden of providing evidence lies with those who believe in such things.

Now, if you want to believe on faith, without evidence, I have no objection.

Written documentation saying that Jesus rose from the dead is evidence, you can say you don't believe it, but millions have believed and had their lives changed due to the truth of that evidence. We have eyewitness documents, we have documentation from those who knew the eyewitnesses, and we have Luke who did research as well and was able to talk to those who knew firsthand the events. Exactly what do you think is required that would show Jesus rose from the dead as a verifiable story?

@kellyjay said
Written documentation saying that Jesus rose from the dead is evidence, you can say you don't believe it, but millions have believed and had their lives changed due to the truth of that evidence.

millions have believed and had their lives changed due to the truth of that evidence

Correction: Millions have believed and their lives have changed due to their belief that that evidence was true.

The popularity and success of Christianity as a religion is not evidence that the claims its adherents make about supernatural things are true. Argumentum ad populam does not work here; it's an informal fallacy.

@kellyjay said
Written documentation saying that Jesus rose from the dead is evidence

No it isn't.

@kellyjay said
Written documentation saying that Jesus rose from the dead is evidence, you can say you don't believe it, but millions have believed and had their lives changed due to the truth of that evidence. We have eyewitness documents, we have documentation from those who knew the eyewitnesses, and we have Luke who did research as well and was able to talk to those who knew firsthand ...[text shortened]... xactly what do you think is required that would show Jesus rose from the dead as a verifiable story?

Written documentation saying that Jesus rose from the dead is evidence

Out of the thousands of religions that there have been, how many have featured figures who supposedly rose from the dead?

@kellyjay said
We have eyewitness documents, we have documentation from those who knew the eyewitnesses, and we have Luke who did research as well and was able to talk to those who knew firsthand the events.

You do not have "eyewitness documents". The Gospels were written decades after Jesus's death by people who were not eyewitnesses. Are there serious bible scholars who dispute this?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Bump for Kelly.

I am not going to repeat my reply answer your question. You apparently are looking for something that fits your narrative.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
No it isn't.

Eye witness accounts written out is evidence you can reject if you want, but it doesn’t mean it isn’t valid. There are those who reject it all and those that accept it, the conflict doesn’t reduce it to nonexistent.

@kellyjay said
Eye witness accounts written out is evidence you can reject if you want, but it doesn’t mean it isn’t valid. There are those who reject it all and those that accept it, the conflict doesn’t reduce it to nonexistent.

If I provide a certificate that I am half alien, would you consider it evidence? Eye witness accounts from people I don't know and who's motives I don't know, who's authenticity I don't know, from thousands of years ago, doesn't remotely come close to 'evidence' of the resurrection or anything else.

Your beliefs are not evidence based. They are faith based.