Your tooth fairy not mine

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Reply to his points then in open posts. Don't direct questions at him that you know he won't respond to.

That shouldn't be how it works though, should it? Anyone making apparent and public statements of fact regarding their unproven beliefs should be challenged, and should be asked to defend those beliefs. Their equally apparent inability to defend them by ignoring the questions put to them is a silence so deafening that it says enough, to anyone who is listening.

@moonbus said
Yes, of course, but if you know you lost your keys somewhere on planet Earth, you don't go looking for them in Never-never-land.

I don't deny the immaterial. But that still leaves us with a large field of investigation of completely naturalistic explanations, without jumping to transcendental pseudo-explanations.

The immaterial is a part of this universe, it’s where we find meaning, through symbols, letters, words, logos and you want to suggest we ignore something so important to focus where we know those answers are not?

@kellyjay said
The immaterial is a part of this universe, it’s where we find meaning, through symbols, letters, words, logos and you want to suggest we ignore something so important to focus where we know those answers are not?

of course I don’t ignore meaning, words, letters or symbols. They are all man made. No further explanation required.

@kellyjay said
There is no abandoning science, it is like if you are looking for your keys in the living room because the lights are better at some point you look elsewhere. Restricting your search to only the material leaves out the immaterial.

If I was looking for my keys and I couldn't find them in the living room, I'd go look in the kitchen. I wouldn't have a look in an imaginary tower.

@fmf said
I don't think it is. If I were to send him unsolicited PMs then maybe yes. But I am not. I am airing my perspectives in public on the perspectives he has aired in public. If he chooses to blank them out, that's for him. People can make of it what they will.

Into the archive with that one.

@moonbus said
of course I don’t ignore meaning, words, letters or symbols. They are all man made. No further explanation required.

Yes, as we apply our minds to take more in, our thoughts are more than just the physical material in the universe. Maybe you think our thoughts are like dominoes that we have no free will it is all just programming we dance to our DNA.

We don’t just look at ink and paper breaking those down to the molecular level for insight and understanding there is more to us. We can think then speak and with transcription make what we said go around the world and stay throughout time. We can take material and do incredible things with it, build things to take us to the moon or the bottom of the ocean. In our limited capacity the complex things we make and do, which comes first, immaterial thoughts and words or does the world molecules alter themselves by only material means? Why do you think materialism is where the answers are?

@fmf said
Well, it would be strange if someone spent time discussing topics like these while feeling that what they were posting was not a worthwhile contribution.

You mean like multiple post just to label someone as being paranoid and delusional? That kind of worthy of contribution?

-Removed-

I don't give out family secrets. And if you keep on asking I'll have you damned for all time.

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Damned you!

@ghost-of-a-duke said
If I was looking for my keys and I couldn't find them in the living room, I'd go look in the kitchen. I wouldn't have a look in an imaginary tower.

Why the living room first and the kitchen second? Were you looking for the house keys? If you would get in the habit of repetition, you would hang the keys in the same spot, then you would not need to look for them, in the future.

@pettytalk said
You mean like multiple post just to label someone as being paranoid and delusional? That kind of worthy of contribution?

If the content of someone's post is paranoid and delusional, as opposed to substantial, then yes: it's well worth pointing it out. If there are multiple posts that are daft in that same way, then saying so each time is worthwhile.