Your will be done

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
It's my job as a mischievous atheist to mess with your head.

i like you being here, there is need for sound reasoning.

Sometimes after defining an explanation, i still feel like im talking to a brick wall with others here

Originally posted by @pudgenik
i like you being here, there is need for sound reasoning.

Sometimes after defining an explanation, i still feel like im talking to a brick wall with others here

Ahem....did you just link Ghost with "sound reasoning"?

Originally posted by @chaney3
Ahem....did you just link Ghost with "sound reasoning"?

I did.

We all become smart asses on here, even Ghost. But he also brings the conversation back to reality. He is more a Child of God than many here who claim to be

Originally posted by @pudgenik
I did.

We all become smart asses on here, even Ghost. But he also brings the conversation back to reality. He is more a Child of God than many here who claim to be

There goes the neighborhood.

Originally posted by @chaney3
There goes the neighborhood.

Thank God

Originally posted by @pudgenik
I did.

We all become smart asses on here, even Ghost. But he also brings the conversation back to reality. He is more a Child of God than many here who claim to be

In fairness sir, I didn't 'become' a smart arse.

God created me that way.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
In fairness sir, I didn't 'become' a smart arse.

God created me that way.

God....or Jesus?

Originally posted by @chaney3
God....or Jesus?

You're asking if the Ghost comes from the Father or the Son?


I thought you didn't believe in the Trinity?!

Originally posted by @pudgenik
i like you being here, there is need for sound reasoning.

Sometimes after defining an explanation, i still feel like im talking to a brick wall with others here

Maybe it's your fault. Garbage in, garbage out.

Originally posted by @pudgenik
I see that "non trinity" lol. we are good

i often try to explain the trinity like a candle. the wax we see a lot of Jesus, the fire, bit of a mystery, and the wick we only know a little of, the Father.

Jesus tells us, no one can go to the Father but through Him (Jesus).

The Jews knew about God and His Spirit, being two yet one God. In the Ancient ...[text shortened]... it is a mystery beyond most, if not all. We don't fully understand it, but we have faith in it.

As far as the separation of the Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit. it is a mystery beyond most, if not all. We don't fully understand it, but we have faith in it.

Have you considered that the fact that no one can rationally explain it indicates that it's fundamentally unsound and nonsensical?

I can understand that inconsistencies in the Bible compelled some to dream up a way to reconcile them, but c'mon. Wouldn't it make much more sense to acknowledge the fact that the Bible has inconsistencies?

Originally posted by @chaney3
Why can't you just let me simmer in my doubt and frustration?
😀

Because there really is no reason for doubt or frustration.

All you really need is to believe, and to follow.

You cannot be half-assed about it and only do one without the other.

That's when the doubt and frustration creep in.

Originally posted by @chaney3
Monotheistic. ONE God.

Hey, sounds pretty good so far.

Christians are monotheistic as well.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
[b]As far as the separation of the Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit. it is a mystery beyond most, if not all. We don't fully understand it, but we have faith in it.

Have you considered that the fact that no one can rationally explain it indicates that it's fundamentally unsound and nonsensical?

I can understand that inconsistencies in the Bible co ...[text shortened]... on. Wouldn't it make much more sense to acknowledge the fact that the Bible has inconsistencies?[/b]

Just because you cannot reconcile what you think with what is written?

Calling something an "inconsistency" just because you don't believe part of it isn't telling the whole truth.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Just because you cannot reconcile what you think with what is written?

Calling something an "inconsistency" just because you don't believe part of it isn't telling the whole truth.

Just because you cannot reconcile what you think with what is written?

Because what is written is not coherent.

Originally posted by @wittywonka

Could someone with more knowledge/experience explain: who is the "by whom" implied in the line "Your will be done"? In other words, is the prayer really saying, "Your will be done by you [God]"--as in, "May you do to/in the world whatever you see fit"? Or is the prayer really saying, "Your will be done by us"--as in, "May we do to/in the world whatever you see fit"?

It is God's will done by God but not unilaterally.
It is God's will done through the cooperation of His people.

This is a helpful verse:

"For it is God who operates in you both the willing and the working for His good pleasure. " (Phil 2:12 RcV)

I thought it was a very good question.