@averagejoe1 said
No, not what ' I want'. Are you libs joining up in your own stupidity? Sonhouse clones?? Yeeech.
Actually, my question is... Should someone who is not a registered (qualified by the voting board, listed as a voter) be allowed to vote in an election or referendum? Such a person may be in the vicinity, maybe sleeping the park, but can he vote if he is not recognized ...[text shortened]... it was OK to answer?
Jesus.

PS: Did you mention Triump? Tell me you didn't mention Trump......

What's yer beef? It's bloody obvious that every state and local municipality maintains of list of registered voters. Anyone not on the list is not allowed to vote. Bloody obvious. Why bother to ask?

@russ said
An "Abdridged" option has been added on "My Games". I'm open to better name suggestions for the reduced "card" view.

Much improved, particularly on iPad/tablet. (Still looks crowded on a smartphone, but I appreciate that the smartphone app will be a separate update/upgrade).

How about "summary" view ?

@phranny said
There are really two major Republican political stories dominating the news these days. The more obvious of the two is the attempt by former president Donald Trump and his followers to destroy American democracy. The other story is older, the one that led to Trump but that stands at least a bit apart from him. It is the story of a national shift away from the supply-side ideo ...[text shortened]... /2024/04/10/theyre-still-playing-games-ex-prosecutor-warns-may-face-asset-seizure-over-invalid-bond/

During the Reagan years, this was known as the 'trickle-down theory': if the rich are allowed to pursue profits unhindered by govt regulation and encouraged by tax cuts, then the rich will get richer and some of it will eventually 'trickle down' to the poor and the middle class. The only thing about trickle-down economics which is valid is the trick of getting the middle class, the Average Joes of America, to vote for it, by holding up the illusion that if Average Joe works hard enough, he too will someday be among the rich. Didn't happen. The rich got richer all right, but the middle class didn't, and the poor got even poorer.

Just to refresh people's memories what happened when Reagan deregulated the banks: a handful of bank CEOs absconded with billions of little old ladies' life savings, they were never caught and brought to justice, and Reagan's successor, Bush Sr., had to levy a tax to cover the bank collapse. It was the biggest bank robbery of all time, and the losers not only lost their life savings, they had to pay Bush's tax to cover the bank failures.

@spruce112358 said
And if you point out what a bad Christian DJT is, they are unfazed. Because, they will say, "God can use even a flawed instrument."

Americans have always been very susceptible to waves of religious revivalism. We have a long history of it. Such waves can give birth to whole new religions - Mormonism, for example. Trump-"ism" has a lot more in common with religion than it does with politics.

Evangelicals know perfectly well The Donald is no model Christian and that Trump himself even mocks them in private. He’s a useful tool, unwittingly doing God‘s work. They cite the fact that he stacked the Supreme Court, which then overturned Roe. The logic of this is stupendously stupid. If God had wanted the Supreme Court to overturn Roe, God would’ve stacked the Supreme Court in the 1970s and they never would’ve made that decision in the first place.

@spruce112358 said
Except in North Dakota. ND got rid of voter registration in 1951 and later required an ID to vote.

Of course that immediately led to taking away the Constitutional guaranteed right to vote from minorities, which is the whole idea behind voter ID laws anyway, as this example proves.

Republicans are unpopular and know that the only way they can win is with dirty tric ...[text shortened]... tent." However, the denial of a vote on this basis was also an issue in the 2018 mid-term election."

The justice system delivered, but very tardily.

@averagejoe1 said
Isn’t that the place where England, et al, used to dump all their criminals? Can we still do that?

Yes. No. (Except when the govt labels them terrorists, then they get sent to Guantanamo Bay.) Answered. Next question, please.

@averagejoe1 said
The problem is that you vacillating libs take so long, after dodging and chewing on your pillow, to answer the question.
Do you think it would be worthwhile for me to start a thread with a query, why libs will not answer questions straight out? Do they have to think about it overnight? Usually the question is quite simple.

So what do you want here? A factual explanation how to register to vote? If so, go to the web site of the electoral commission in your state of residence. Or do you just want to gripe about voter fraud? If the latter, Trump was the one who tried to steal the last election, by engaging fake electors, among other tactics. States should be required to certify their electors from now on, and THEY should provide positive ID before submitting their counts to the national archive.

@kevcvs57 said
“ Trump literally wants to get rid of American democracy and replace it with dictatorship.”
As do:- mott, Joe and numerous other MAGAs on here. They know exactly what trump has in store for the country and they back him on it 100% These extremists cannot rely on democracy in the long term so they are hoping a confluence of factors allow trump to sneak into the White House with a minority vote and then they can stop worrying about that pesky democracy thing

It is not only Trump who wants to deconstruct democracy in America. Many evangelicals want to too, and they are not even hiding their intentions.

"Putting Christian nationalism front and center in Trump’s second term is also a key part of Project 2025, the very public effort by Trump allies to reshape the executive branch into a tool of unchallenged one-man rule. Trump’s Christian nationalist allies don’t hide these efforts because they don’t view them as something shameful. Rather, they consider themselves the vanguard of a so-called “moral restoration” of the United States, which can only be achieved by destroying the democratic structures that allow non-Christians to immigrate, vote and seek public office in this country.

According to Project 2025’s authoritarian manifesto, “Freedom is defined by God, not man.” In the Christian nationalist reading of American history, too many non-Christians enjoy too much freedom, and even unconstitutional actions are justified if they return America to Trump’s imagined national past. "


https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4479354-america-is-facing-a-threat-of-biblical-proportion-the-rise-of-christian-nationalism/

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@phranny said
There are really two major Republican political stories dominating the news these days. The more obvious of the two is the attempt by former president Donald Trump and his followers to destroy American democracy. The other story is older, the one that led to Trump but that stands at least a bit apart from him. It is the story of a national shift away from the supply-side ideo ...[text shortened]... /2024/04/10/theyre-still-playing-games-ex-prosecutor-warns-may-face-asset-seizure-over-invalid-bond/

This summary of the GOP over the last 40 years leaves out a critical juncture: the rise and assimilation of the Tea Party. The Tea Party was initially an attempt to inject a third party into the broken two-party system in the USA. The GOP at that time realised that the Tea Party would likely split the Republican vote and severely reduce their ability to maintain their hold on power. So, the GOP leadership tried to assimilate the Tea Party, thinking that sensible Republicans (Cheney, Romney, Sass, etc.) would moderate the more radical Tea Party elements. The opposite occurred: the Tea Party has dragged the traditional Republican agenda far far to the right, and polarised the political climate in America to such an extent that an experienced, politically savvy, and reasonably moderate speaker of the house (McCarthy) was ousted simply for securing bi-partisan support for a necessary finance bill. The current speaker (an inexperienced and incompetent toady) is in no less peril from a challenge by another inexperienced and very radical member of Congress who is holding him hostage to an ouster-threat.

The bizarre result is that a non-elected person is now holding the entire US Congress hostage; if Trump tweets 'kill the bill', then Congress is hamstrung, and the continued existence of a sovereign nation invaded by superior military forces now actually hangs in the balance, depending on whether one man, not an elected official, says 'yes' or 'no'. This is not how domestic democracy is supposed to work, much less international diplomacy.

The really really Big Lie is not that Donald Trump won the 2020 election. That's just a fib. The really really Big Lie is that Donald Trump is fighting for the rights of the Jane Doe and Average Joe. He's interested in no such thing. What he's fighting for is the privilege of his fellow plutocrats to make endless profits (e.g. $2 bn. Jared Kushner from the Saudis for unknown services 'rendered' nudge nudge wink wink).

@divegeester said
Maybe also thank the AUZ firewall immigration policy which along with NZ are the toughest in the (free/Western) world.

Does one still have to be a criminal to get sent to Australia ?


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@ponderable said
There is no peak to stupidity, like there is no biggest number...

Ich stimme zu.

The correct thread title would have been 'is this MAGA's nadir?'

To which the correct answer would have been, 'you ain't seen nuthin' yet!'

@divegeester said
LOL, what a pathetic sight.

And as Moonbus says, it’s incredible that the USA is faced with the prospect of choosing between a doddery old man and a malignant narcissistic criminal.

If Biden wins in November he’ll be “retired” within 12 months and who will by potus then?

The VP. He'd better choose wisely.

@averagejoe1 said
Discounting the plethora of Sunhouse post, the question is much simpler than that.
You are aware. I am sure that, for someone to be listed on the voter rolls, that they would have had to have been approved to be able to vote? If you agree, here is the question. Can someone who is not approved, not on the rolls, vote?
A simple question. Thankyou. It is so simpl ...[text shortened]... , he CAN vote.
I think my questions are so easy that you think I am trying to trick you fellers?

Someone who is not registered to vote cannot vote. And if he tries, then a) he is in breach of the law, and b) his 'vote' will not be tallied.

What's yer problem with that ?

@kellyjay said
I don't think it is incredible at all, it is corruption, greed, and lust for power on full display. One of the biggest pushes in government NOT just left or right politicians is to spend money on both homeless and illegal aliens (H&I) right now. If you wanted to skim money off the top these would be where it is most easily done, paper trails for both the (H&I) could easily ...[text shortened]... ey will be employed.

Is it any wonder why audits now show billions unaccounted for in California?

Greed is a big issue, I agree. I would be in favour of mandatory transparence for politicians at the federal level, and even that their private assets be placed into a blind trust and professionally managed until such time as they leave office. This would prevent such shenanigans as Jared Kushner receiving billions from the Saudis for unknown 'services rendered'.