Originally posted by venda Orginal post from Russ:-
Each opponent in a match up must have a rating within 200 points of their opponent. If a clan challenge is bounced, and a player's rating drifts beyond this tolerance, the matchup must be removed or replaced by another opponent who does qualify.
I interpret this as "awaiting acceptance" as well as "bounced" so the answer is at time of acceptance
Am I missing something here. The diffrence in ratings can be no more than 200. Surely you would be expected to beat an opponent 200 points lower than yourself, so surely the new rule dosn't go far enough. In my opinion, a fair challenge is a matchup with no more diffrence than 100 points. I apoligize again if I got this wrong.
Originally posted by Steve45 Am I missing something here. The diffrence in ratings can be no more than 200. Surely you would be expected to beat an opponent 200 points lower than yourself, so surely the new rule dosn't go far enough. In my opinion, a fair challenge is a matchup with no more diffrence than 100 points. I apoligize again if I got this wrong.
The rule is an attempt to stop the sandbagging in the clan challenges
As I've said previously on various forums,I don't think a players current rating is representative of ability anyway, but all credit to Russ for attempting to do something about the rating manipulators.
200 is perhaps a bit wide but if you tighten it much more it's going to be very difficult to find challenges.
Let's see if the rule brings any improvement.
Originally posted by Russ An update has just been released which modifies the rules for submitting clan challenges.
Each opponent in a match up must have a rating within 200 points of their opponent. If a clan challenge is bounced, and a player's rating drifts beyond this tolerance, the matchup must be removed or replaced by another opponent who does qualify.
Clan admins will note that invalid matchups will be highlighted in orange to assist with making valid selections.
As usually happens you take a hammer to crack a nut
I have always used the formula of 5 years average and within 100 points
I have just had to refuse a challenge where the current rating of the two players involved were within the current criteria but on a 5 yr average they were 300 apart
I get the feeling that this will reduce the number of games I can play
I agree it will make people sandbag and also my top few are 2300's they will be hard to get games and challenges for now. Shame clan system it's bad. Hard to keep everyone happy but this change isn't a good one.
Why were Clan Leaders not told of this .I did not know anything about this until a Clan challenge came up
You are quick enough to inform them when Clan Leagues are due to be formed
Originally posted by padger As usually happens you take a hammer to crack a nut
I have always used the formula of 5 years average and within 100 points
I have just had to refuse a challenge where the current rating of the two players involved were within the current criteria but on a 5 yr average they were 300 apart
I get the feeling that this will reduce the number of games I can play
This can be tweaked - but any further changes will be the result of a consultation vote. Suggestions in "site ideas", and I'll create a vote soon after.
Sand bagging is only one problem. This doesn't stop obvious collusion on the part of two or more clans to set challenges and funnel all points to one clan. Any ideas on how to stop that?
least net points this year Anti Metallica and Breaking Bad, highest Easy Riders, i think everyone can clearly see now waht is happening and that the clan system is dead
Originally posted by Wycombe Al least net points this year Anti Metallica and Breaking Bad, highest Easy Riders, i think everyone can clearly see now waht is happening and that the clan system is dead
The 3 maximum concurrent challenges rule should help.
By preventing a clan mounting multiple big challenges against a "dummy" clan and falsifying the results as I think Al is suggesting.
There's also a rule which stops re - challenges between clans within a certain period meaning clans can't conclude challenges almost immediately and then mount a new one
If clans are doing this as soon as the time period expires(I think it's a week)and almost immediately concluding the challenges within a few moves this should be obvious to the admins who should be able to do something about it.
I suggest sending feedback with evidence
Originally posted by venda By preventing a clan mounting multiple big challenges against a "dummy" clan and falsifying the results as I think Al is suggesting.
There's also a rule which stops re - challenges between clans within a certain period meaning clans can't conclude challenges almost immediately and then mount a new one
If clans are doing this as soon as the time period expir ...[text shortened]... he admins who should be able to do something about it.
I suggest sending feedback with evidence
Venda you seem to be a guy that is well informed and knows what's going on. Haven't you been paying attention to this very thing that has the whole clan system in jeopardy? The evidence is being ignored for some reason.
Also, how many bogus points do you think a clan working with two other clans could amass in one year, throwing challenges following the current rules if the mods don't acknowledge and stop it.
Clan challenge rule change - enforced matchup balancing
16 Jan '16 16:46
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