@AverageJoe1 saidWith your country coming apart at the seams and losing its place in the world, your unhealthy obsession with sexuality matters is a sign of a seriously sick mind.
A tran person athlete in middle school takes 3 events hosted for 7th Grade girls. All the girls were boxed out. It is difficult to see these girls realize that they can never win. Marauder says there are only a few tran people, but you see, that means that 'a few' girls were beaten. If there are 20 tran people, and 10 girls in a race, then 200 girls in our country (4 ...[text shortened]... otees loses to one of these freaks, what would their positions be? And why don't they answer that?
I think about a man fleeing to sanctuary from unimaginably bad things, given that sanctuary, finding hope, a family, a life. Then having the country which gave him that hope destroying it all because that country's current dictator can't distinguish between right and wrong. Gang members and criminals have tattoos, so do stupid teenagers. Having a tattoo saying mom or dad is deserving of a death penalty in your crazy world.
@Zahlanzi saidWalk 3 doors down the street. Ask the occupant....do you know the def of a trans girl
they are 13 year old children, you lunatic. what do you think will happen if they play together? Is this how little you think of girls, that they will explode in a million pieces if they are confronted with a trans girl?
you're so pathetic and sad
@Kewpie saidhuh ?
With your country coming apart at the seams and losing its place in the world, your unhealthy obsession with sexuality matters is a sign of a seriously sick mind.
I think about a man fleeing to sanctuary from unimaginably bad things, given that sanctuary, finding hope, a family, a life. Then having the country which gave him that hope destroying it all because that country ...[text shortened]... d teenagers. Having a tattoo saying mom or dad is deserving of a death penalty in your crazy world.
@AverageJoe1 saidI'm not a racist or anything, but if I found out you were my neighbor and after a few conversations at a communal barbecue you expressed the same ideas publicly, that you express on this forum, for the sake of my kids, I would quietly sell up and find another place to live.
Before you get too far afield, I have tried to limit my discussions of men wearing dresses being women. My question has always been that you and I, being two neighbors that live next to each other that have a chat in the backyard.
@kmax87 saidAll due respects, this makes no sense. You have got to agree that if you see a guy wearing a dress on the other side of the street in the front yard, that you would never under any circumstances consider him, in any way or venue, to be a woman.
I'm not a racist or anything, but if I found out you were my neighbor and after a few conversations at a communal barbecue you expressed the same ideas publicly, that you express on this forum, for the sake of my kids, I would quietly sell up and find another place to live.
So that being established, what would change your mind when you came around to the back yard to meet me for a friendly hamburger?
Please be fair, not argumentative.
@AverageJoe1 saidnot my job to educate people
Walk 3 doors down the street. Ask the occupant....do you know the def of a trans girl
or to teach pathetic clowns like you empathy
@Suzianne saidmaybe it's true that he's been trolling all this time.
Exactly.
He never hears himself when he does this, as long as other stupid people agree, he's happy, kinda like Trump.
most of the posters here have gotten bored with him so he must up the outrage-o-meter
i treat him as a lighning rod. It is therapeutic to vent sometimes and since he is an objectively horrible human being, troll or not, he deserves all the abuse i throw at him and it's a guilty pleasure of mine. A small pleasure, after all how rewarding can debating an idiot or someone who plays one can be
@Zahlanzi said13 year old girls versus 13 year old BOYS. Calling them trans women doesn't change the fact that they are bigger stronger faster better coordinated and MUCH more aggressive than girls at that age.
they are 13 year old children, you lunatic. what do you think will happen if they play together? Is this how little you think of girls, that they will explode in a million pieces if they are confronted with a trans girl?
you're so pathetic and sad
@Cliff-Mashburn saidI guess they don't think of that? What else could be their problem , to not get it....they just don't get it. Are they daft, lacking basic judgement, acumen??
13 year old girls versus 13 year old BOYS. Calling them trans women doesn't change the fact that they are bigger stronger faster better coordinated and MUCH more aggressive than girls at that age.
Never fail to notice the common threads among them. The very definition of 'lockstep', emulating each other. It would be so refreshing if just oe of them could say, a man dressed as a woman is a still a man. Just ONE of them. Naaaa
Look at all the posts above, all ad hominem with no policy substance. They could be more interesting one would think.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidyou think someone would be dumb enough to pat you on your back for your concern about girls but all we see is a gross obssession with little children and just how low of an opinion you have of girls and women.
13 year old girls versus 13 year old BOYS. Calling them trans women doesn't change the fact that they are bigger stronger faster better coordinated and MUCH more aggressive than girls at that age.
@AverageJoe1 saidMan, it is The Way of The Left. They have no logic, and when confronted with logic they respond with insults. It's all they have.
I guess they don't think of that? What else could be their problem , to not get it....they just don't get it. Are they daft, lacking basic judgement, acumen??
Never fail to notice the common threads among them. The very definition of 'lockstep', emulating each other. It would be so refreshing if just oe of them could say, a man dressed as a woman is a still a man. ...[text shortened]... sts above, all ad hominem with no policy substance. They could be more interesting one would think.
On the issue of transgenders competing against girls, I have seen it firsthand. My granddaughter is a really good basketball player, and is finishing the 8th grade. She plays school ball where so far there hasn't been any issues. But she also plays league ball and AAU. Multiple times we have witnessed...those who 'identify' as girls absolutely DESTROY the girls they were playing against. I mean physically overwhelm them.
It has always been funny to me how the Left screams 'this is a democracy!' That would mean the majority rule. If that were true, the 71% of CALIFORNIA (FAR left) public is against transgenders participating in girls sports could put a stop to it. SEVENTY ONE PERCENT.
Where I'm from, the percentage would certainly be much higher for people against transgenders in girls sports. Much, MUCH higher.
These are at once complex and simple issues, which make them complicated....Speaking as someone who would be generally regarded as a 'libtard' by certain members of our community, I will attempt to simplify.
The complexity arises firstly out of the definition of gender; our own (UK) Prime Minister found himself in hot water with the 'feminist movement', and famously with Ms J.K. Rowling, for being unable or unwilling to define what is a woman; it's thin ice upon which we walk in this regard.
In the first place, it should not be forgotten that women have struggled for generations for recognition and 'equality', and, since we are specifically discussing sport, it is my belief that the rights of sportswomen should be paramount. People may 'identify' as anything they like, if someone wants to think they're a wombat, (for example) all power to them, but sport by its' definition is a physical contest, who can run the fastest, throw a lump of metal the furthest, and so on.
Hormone treatments, surgery and so on may satisfy the need in someone to become something else, but...And here's the crux; if any vestige of 'maleness' exists in a man who has 'become a women', in terms of height, reach, musculature and so on, then this may give them inherent advantage over women/girls who have never been anything else.
It's one of those odd things about which (uniquely?) people with generally illiberal views and those who advocate the rights of women share common ground.
And now I await the brickbats....Go easy on me, this is tricky.
@AverageJoe1 said400 years ago, we couldn't have discussed taking a plane to Cincinnati to watch the Reds play. Nor could we have discussed gender affirming treatments that are now fairly routine medical procedures.
Before you get too far afield, I have tried to limit my discussions of men wearing dresses being women. My question has always been that you and I, being two neighbors that live next to each other that have a chat in the backyard. We don’t have to know anything about the law. Let’s say it’s 400 years ago and we’re sitting around a campfire. A boy comes up and says he want ...[text shortened]... ou presume to be, you are the most ineffective on the forum., setting aside Sunhouse for the moment
So your "point", whatever it might be, is irrelevant.
@Indonesia-Phil saidSuch a determination should be up to the relevant sports organizations BUT it simply isn't true that transgender girls/women always have some innate athletic advantage over cisgender ones. Athletic ability varies by individuals; send the average transgender woman to play a one on one game against Caitlin Clark and they'd get massacred.
These are at once complex and simple issues, which make them complicated....Speaking as someone who would be generally regarded as a 'libtard' by certain members of our community, I will attempt to simplify.
The complexity arises firstly out of the definition of gender; our own (UK) Prime Minister found himself in hot water with the 'feminist movement', and famousl ...[text shortened]... hts of women share common ground.
And now I await the brickbats....Go easy on me, this is tricky.
And despite the nonsense being presented here by ignorant bigots who seem to actually think that boys/men are simply saying they are transgender in order to win obscure athletic competitions, there isn't a single verified case where this happened and the result was allowed to stand.