@averagejoe1 saidWhich shows us what, exactly.... $money talks and bullslip walks.
You don’t think she is a Neocon? Campaigned to stop all war, and now she is all in.
You are disingenuous.
of course she caved to the war lobby.
@averagejoe1 saidRight so provide a link that says AOC said se will never consider supporting a nation that has been invaded by another nation with material support.
I wrote that AOC has done a 180, exactly diff than what she campaigned on.
You wrote (the above).
“Who started the war, Putin, culture and MAGAS.”
Kev….Kev…Kev. Are you a neophyte in debate. AvJoe legitimately raises the hypocrisy of one person……., AOC, hoping so much for a response about…..AOC!
You will not respond , but instead write about …….the above.
...[text shortened]... ike Sonhouse with each day.
Now, tell everyone to straighten up and agree to AvJoe’s discovery.
Your just conjuring stuff up and tweaking it to fit one of your favourite whipping posts, in this case three of them:- female, non-white, and democrat.
@kevcvs57 saidN0, I am not. There are plenty of videos of her when campaigning to stay the hell out of war.
Right so provide a link that says AOC said se will never consider supporting a nation that has been invaded by another nation with material support.
Your just conjuring stuff up and tweaking it to fit one of your favourite whipping posts, in this case three of them:- female, non-white, and democrat.
today, she wants to be in war.
No conjuring by me. If you think so, why are her supporters giving her hell for supporting the Ukraine war, and betraying them. You just trollin'.
@averagejoe1 saidAmerica is not at war. There are no American forces fighting in Ukraine.
N0, I am not. There are plenty of videos of her when campaigning to stay the hell out of war.
today, she wants to be in war.
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@vivify saidAt present, US and NATO commanders are fully involved in planning Ukraine military operations using US military gathered intelligence and US and NATO weaponry.
America is not at war. There are no American forces fighting in Ukraine.
https://www.salon.com/2022/10/17/joe-bidens-broken-promise-to-avoid-with-could-lead-to-armageddon/
That sure seems a lot like "being at war".
@AverageJoe1 appease Putin now by letting him have Ukraine and he will try to gobble up all of Europe. Appeasement doesn't work. The UK tried that with Hitler. Putin must be stopped. AOC never claimed to be a conscientious objector. There are wars worth fighting and there are those that are not.
@no1marauder saidAnd yet it's not.
At present, US and NATO commanders are fully involved in planning Ukraine military operations using US military gathered intelligence and US and NATO weaponry.
https://www.salon.com/2022/10/17/joe-bidens-broken-promise-to-avoid-with-could-lead-to-armageddon/
That sure seems a lot like "being at war".
@phranny saidThe same argument dragged the US into Vietnam.
@AverageJoe1 appease Putin now by letting him have Ukraine and he will try to gobble up all of Europe. Appeasement doesn't work. The UK tried that with Hitler. Putin must be stopped. AOC never claimed to be a conscientious objector. There are wars worth fighting and there are those that are not.
@no1marauder saidUsually war leads to casualties.
At present, US and NATO commanders are fully involved in planning Ukraine military operations using US military gathered intelligence and US and NATO weaponry.
https://www.salon.com/2022/10/17/joe-bidens-broken-promise-to-avoid-with-could-lead-to-armageddon/
That sure seems a lot like "being at war".
@athousandyoung saidCasualties of your guys tends to make war less popular. NATO and the West prefer wars where casualties of that type are minimal. Serbia 1998 and Libya 2012 are their templates.
Usually war leads to casualties.
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@athousandyoung saidWell, I may be wrong to say to let to Putin have Ukraine, who knows. But if we do continue helping Ukraine, , we will have to pay for Taiwan who is going to be attacked by China, which may be soon, given the cowardice of Biden.
Usually war leads to casualties.
Think about it. Dont we have our own problems, like paying for loser tuition, and combating inflation.? Did you know Biden today, while licking a manly ice cream cone, said that we have the strongest economy?
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@averagejoe1 saidUnemployment rate is down to 3.5%, lowest in 50 years.
Well, I may be wrong to say to let to Putin have Ukraine, who knows. But if we do continue helping Ukraine, , we will have to pay for Taiwan who is going to be attacked by China, which may be soon, given the cowardice of Biden.
Think about it. Dont we have our own problems, like paying for loser tuition, and combating inflation.? Did you know Biden today, while licking a manly ice cream cone, said that we have the strongest economy?
The US had added 10 million jobs since Biden was inaugurated. https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/biden-heads-for-the-midterms-with-ten-million-new-jobs
That sounds like a "strong economy" to me.
@no1marauder saidThen what, pray tell, is this? Uhhh, reality, maybe? Libs do not see the forest for the trees.
Unemployment rate is down to 3.5%, lowest in 50 years.
The US had added 10 million jobs since Biden was inaugurated. https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/biden-heads-for-the-midterms-with-ten-million-new-jobs
That sounds like a "strong economy" to me.
Both sets of researchers tell the same story: Average Americans have no reason to be celebrating our contemporary economy.
“Most families,” as Economic Policy Institute senior economist Elise Gould puts it, “have just barely made up the ground lost over the past decade.”
News stories on the new Census report have so far been giving the Bureau’s latest income numbers a generally positive spin. Media outlets are headlining an increase in America’s real median income, from $60,309 in 2016 to $61,372 last year. But that increase in median income obscures a more complicated — and much less encouraging — reality.
To most Americans, the best marker of a healthy economy will always be a decent-paying, full-time job. An economy, in effect, only deserves celebrating when people with full-time jobs are taking home rising paychecks. In America today, they aren’t.
Median annual earnings for both men and women working full-time actually dropped 1.1 percent last year, in real dollars. Since 2007, male full-time workers have seen their paychecks drop 2.5 percent in value.
Stepping back a bit more in time, we can see how shrinking full-time wages are impacting economic life as most Americans experience it. Since the year 2000, the household income of the typical non-elderly American household has dropped 2.7 percent.
@no1marauder saidUkraine is very different. Putin has made it clear he wishes to gobble up Eastern Europe, including NATO members.
The same argument dragged the US into Vietnam.