@wildgrass saidwhich of these apply to Trump? NONE
Starr Report: A legal BJ and the subsequent illegal coverup to save a marriage.
Mueller Report: 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; illegal cover up. 14 other criminal matters uncovered and referred to the Department of Justice.
quit lying
@mott-the-hoople saidI'm lying? I didn't mention trump.
which of these apply to Trump? NONE
quit lying
It wasn't trump. It was all of his closest campaign associates lying about the campaign under oath and choosing to go to prison instead of telling the truth.
@suzianne saidA wrong count is a vote change.
Votes don't change.
The count changes because of errors in counting.
Votes don't change.
Now we know counts are not accurate and it takes recounts to find out and change them so they are correct. You don't seem to care how they got wrong counts for someone who cares about democracy.
How did they get the count wrong by 99 votes?
@metal-brain saidOut of millions? Do be serious.
A wrong count is a vote change.
Now we know counts are not accurate and it takes recounts to find out and change them so they are correct. You don't seem to care how they got wrong counts for someone who cares about democracy.
How did they get the count wrong by 99 votes?
Go ahead. Count to 2 million without losing track.
Incorrect counts don't change a single vote. If you think they do, that explains a lot.
@metal-brain saidAnother conspiracy-theory (AKA fake news) site?
https://beckernews.com/decertify-trump-supporters-explode-after-seeing-whats-actually-in-arizona-election-audit-results-41909/
@Metal-Brain
Trump has done his work well, from YOUR POV anyway.
Even that Cyber Ninja guy admits there was no fraud but that doesn't count for you dudes still hypnotized by Trump.
I don't believe for one second you 'Hate Trump' like you said.
Too many inconsistencies in your posts day to day.
I think your handlers are not handling you very well.
You may yet be eligible for a pulonium salad lunch from them if you don't straighten up.....
@metal-brain saidWhat do you propose we do about it MB? Are we just complaining alleging fraud now every time our side loses, or can we design a trustworthy system that doesn't require 5 recounts months of auditing every election?
They change votes if they are not caught and you don't know how many are not caught.
What does that system look like?
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@wildgrass saidManual counts, and no first-past-the-post.
What do you propose we do about it MB? Are we just complaining alleging fraud now every time our side loses, or can we design a trustworthy system that doesn't require 5 recounts months of auditing every election?
What does that system look like?
@wildgrass saidOne would think that the nation which sent men to the moon could devise an electoral system the public could believe in.
What do you propose we do about it MB? Are we just complaining alleging fraud now every time our side loses, or can we design a trustworthy system that doesn't require 5 recounts months of auditing every election?
What does that system look like?
Oh, . . . wait. Some Americans still don't believe Americans went to the moon, or that vaccines are safe, or that Elvis is really dead, or that the Earth is vastly older than 6,000 years.
Well, I guess all one can say to that is: you get the government you deserve.
@metal-brain saidIt is not known whether the AZ state election commission tally is right or the Cyber Ninja tally is right. Both could be wrong. In any case, a discrepancy of 99 out of 2 million is trivial.
A wrong count is a vote change.
Now we know counts are not accurate and it takes recounts to find out and change them so they are correct. You don't seem to care how they got wrong counts for someone who cares about democracy.
How did they get the count wrong by 99 votes?
@wildgrass saidWhy not do recounts every election? I'm not saying in every state, but at least some states should have a mandatory recount every election.
What do you propose we do about it MB? Are we just complaining alleging fraud now every time our side loses, or can we design a trustworthy system that doesn't require 5 recounts months of auditing every election?
What does that system look like?
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@metal-brain saidOnly where there is reason to think the vote is very close, as in FL Bush/Gore, where it really did come down to a few hundred votes. Not in AZ 2020; 99 votes out of 2 million is trivial. Biden's margin in AZ was over 45,000; not close at all.
Why not do recounts every election? I'm not saying in every state, but at least some states should have a mandatory recount every election.
EDIT: all the so-called 'issues' have been debunked. Same person voting multiple times did not happen; it was a case of 'John Smith', a common name, each one voted only once. Or a case of students registered to vote at home but actually living at college somewhere else; perfectly legit.