Arrests of 475 illegals in Georgia..good discussion?

@wildgrass said
Did Joe Biden pardon all the drug dealers?

Do you really want to know why Trump did it?

Yes let’s not fight. Neither of them should pardon anyone who has committed a crime and convicted of said crime.
The news was full of all of Joe Biden‘s pardons. It’s all out there Google it. Let’s not fight.

@wildgrass said
Oh, maybe you misread the news story. To recap:

- Hundreds of law enforcement officers spent months investigating. The bill runs into the tens of millions of dollars.
- None of the people arrested worked for Hyundai, they were contractors.
- The contract workers were there to build the factory.
- Some of the people arrested were US citizens and lawful permanent reside ...[text shortened]... th Visas or Visa waivers.
- NO CRIMINAL CHARGES WERE FILED.

How's that not a waste of resources?

Given all that you say, they are still illegals who were told not to work and their working. I am so sorry it cost so much money to keep these illegal alien invaders out of our country. Think of the money they cost us by just being here. So we disagree. whatever money it takes to get them hell out of here.
Sorry about an ism, but look how much money Biden wasted. Life ain’t perfect. The government ain’t perfect.
They used to affect our lives, now they affect our lifes.. marauder is enjoying it..

@AverageJoe1 said
Given all that you say, they are still illegals who were told not to work and their working. I am so sorry it cost so much money to keep these illegal alien invaders out of our country. Think of the money they cost us by just being here. So we disagree. whatever money it takes to get them hell out of here.
Sorry about an ism, but look how much money Biden wasted. Li ...[text shortened]... perfect.
They used to affect our lives, now they affect our lifes.. marauder is enjoying it..

Lol A US citizen who is building a factory is rounded up by ICE and you call him illegal?

Trump's America makes work illegal.

@wildgrass said
Lol A US citizen who is building a factory is rounded up by ICE and you call him illegal?

Trump's America makes work illegal.

I must have missed a part in the article that they were US citizens. My bad. I thought they were people here under permits, which permits provided that they could not work .My mistake that means we can end this or I can say I was wrong.

Just for the record, you’re stating that they’re building a factory is quite irrelevant to a discussion about their illness legal status

@AverageJoe1 said
I must have missed a part in the article that they were US citizens. My bad. I thought they were people here under permits, which permits provided that they could not work .My mistake that means we can end this or I can say I was wrong.

Just for the record, you’re stating that they’re building a factory is quite irrelevant to a discussion about their illness legal status

If they were building a factory, but now they are not, then that is one less factory that will be built.

@no1marauder said
These stats are from the May 2025 report from the US Department of Agriculture:

"Farm operators paid their hired workers an average gross wage of $19.52 per
hour during the April 2025 reference week, up 3 percent from the April 2024
reference week. Field workers received an average of $18.58 per hour, up 2
percent. Livestock workers earned $18.15 per hour, up 4 p ...[text shortened]... tps://downloads.usda.library.cornell.edu/usda-esmis/files/x920fw89s/0v839z45n/sx61gj70t/fmla0525.txt

I did write a response to this but I probably went on to something else without posting.

The general gist of my post was that average wages working on the land ranges from $37k to $40.6k per yr. That's @ 40 hrs/ week and 52 weeks/yr. I'm not sure if farm workers get 2 weeks holidays.

The big question is, $40k/yr, is that a livable wage? Also that would be a gross wage. How much would that person net?

For the amount of physical labor involved, it does not seem a lot of money.

@AverageJoe1 said
You and I did this one. But tell these kids in plain english that when the govt lends money, paid from our taxes to a student going to college, that it is CORRECT that that $10,000 is received by the college, Berea College, KY, and applied to the cost of that student's education. Pays professors, building maintenance, landscaping of grounds, salaries. All spent, stude ...[text shortened]... rce. Thankyou.

Everyone, we all stipulate the impossibility that a lender pay itself back!!!

If a rich guy is obligated to pay $100,000 in income taxes and the government decides to give him a tax cut of $10,000, is he a "loser" because the government is out $10,000? If the government allows him to file bankruptcy and escape paying millions in debt, do you call him a "loser" or say what a smart businessman he is?

You're an obnoxious, ignorant hypocrite to spill your bile on the sons and daughters of working and middle class parents who needed help to get an education and are now asking for a bit of financial relief.

@no1marauder said
If a rich guy is obligated to pay $100,000 in income taxes and the government decides to give him a tax cut of $10,000, is he a "loser" because the government is out $10,000? If the government allows him to file bankruptcy and escape paying millions in debt, do you call him a "loser" or say what a smart businessman he is?

You're an obnoxious, ignorant hypocrite to spil ...[text shortened]... class parents who needed help to get an education and are now asking for a bit of financial relief.

A glance at your post, which I did not read, saw that you do not answer my exrtemely simple question. We are all amazed that you will not tell us about that $10,000.
Absolutely amazing.

@wildgrass said
If they were building a factory, but now they are not, then that is one less factory that will be built.

No, it is not. It is a factory that they are not building. That does not mean that it won't get built. If ICE comes to my office and grabs some illegal aliens working there, I will not close my office. This is America. I would make a few phone calls, restructure a bit, maybe increase salaries to cover the staff problems, and prevail. Be successful.
Don't be a quitter. And if I hired them knowing I was breaking the law, I had it coming. As to the factory, other factory owners will swoop in and take over the mess left behind, and, trust me, that factory will get built by honest people....and make themselves more successful. (y'all like to say 'rich',,whatever) 🙂

@AverageJoe1 said
No, it is not. It is a factory that they are not building. That does not mean that it won't get built. If ICE comes to my office and grabs some illegal aliens working there, I will not close my office. This is America. I would make a few phone calls, restructure a bit, maybe increase salaries to cover the staff problems, and prevail. Be successful.
Don't be a ...[text shortened]... uilt by honest people....and make themselves more successful. (y'all like to say 'rich',,whatever) 🙂

This is a $7.6 billion investment by one of biggest companies in the world; no, Joe Blow down the street isn't going to step in and replace Hyundai if it pulls the plug.

It will also undoubtedly make other companies think twice before committing to such projects.

@no1marauder said
This is a $7.6 billion investment by one of biggest companies in the world; no, Joe Blow down the street isn't going to step in and replace Hyundai if it pulls the plug.

It will also undoubtedly make other companies think twice before committing to such projects.

I certainly hope like you say that companies will think twice when doing business, that they will be legal and Use Common Sense.

Hyundai has been round for about 30 years and has sold about 15,000,000 cars. They ain't going no where. Why say that? And if someone like Toyota sees them floundering, they will jump on it over night. There will hardly be a blip. Watch Hyundai econ reports over the next months.....nothing will change. Geez. You are trying to upset us!!!
As to those 475,,,,,like I say, don't be in a place that you are not supposed to be, and you will always be fine. They were in a place where they were not supposed to be. But, get on down there with your signs.

@wildgrass said
If they were building a factory, but now they are not, then that is one less factory that will be built.

If you are stupid enough to believe construction will be stopped if these illegals are removed.
🙄

@AverageJoe1 said
A glance at your post, which I did not read, saw that you do not answer my exrtemely simple question. We are all amazed that you will not tell us about that $10,000.
Absolutely amazing.

From March 2020 to May 2021, the government loaned out $790 billion to business under the PPP program. Of that, $757 billion was subsequently forgiven.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ppp-loan-forgiveness-student-loan-relief-cost-comparison/

Have you ever railed against these "losers" or complained about that huge sum not going back to government coffers?

@Mott-The-Hoople said
If you are stupid enough to believe construction will be stopped if these illegals are removed.
🙄

It already has been.

When it will be resumed is up in the air.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
If you are stupid enough to believe construction will be stopped if these illegals are removed.
🙄

Let's go to the live feed. Just crickets and birds chirping.