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    27 Mar '17 18:29
    http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/27/california-governor-says-its-not-christian-to-build-a-wall-along-the-us-mexico-border/

    California governor says that building the Trump wall Is not a Christian thing to do cuz he lives his life by asking, "What would Jesus do"?

    Is the governor ushering in a theocratic government?
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    27 Mar '17 18:402 edits
    It makes one wonder, what would Jesus do, use money to repair damns ready to flood communities or give it to sanctuary cities even though it goes against Federal law?

    Tough call.

    Do you know king rat? What would Jesus do?
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    27 Mar '17 18:48
    Originally posted by whodey
    It makes one wonder, what would Jesus do, use money to repair damns ready to flood communities or give it to sanctuary cities even though it goes against Federal law?

    Tough call.

    Do you know king rat? What would Jesus do?
    Isn't Jesus known for all kinds of magical tricks? Couldn't he just flick his fingers and fix that dam?
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    27 Mar '17 18:59
    Originally posted by whodey
    Building the wall is not the Christian thing to do
    No, but it is the Jewish thing to do.
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    27 Mar '17 19:031 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    It makes one wonder, what would Jesus do, use money to repair damns ready to flood communities or give it to sanctuary cities even though it goes against Federal law?

    Tough call.

    Do you know king rat? What would Jesus do?
    I always find your gross inconsistencies amusing. You are a constant screecher for all manner of policies that would limit Federal power (even explicit grants of such power in the Constitution) in favor of States and localities EXCEPT when the policy is something you and your fellow right wingers don't like. In point of fact, "sanctuary cities" are not in violation of Federal law based on (gulp) Tenth Amendment principles:

    Congress cannot commandeer local authorities to enforce federal immigration laws. Thus, as long as sanctuary communities that choose not to ask about immigration status do not bar volunteer communications and follow other federal requirements of cooperation, they clearly are not preempted.
    [...]
    The central teaching of the Tenth Amendment cases is that even where Congress has the authority under the Constitution to pass laws requiring or prohibiting certain acts, it lacks the power directly to compel the states to require or prohibit those acts. Congress may not, therefore, directly compel states or localities to enact or to administer policies or programs adopted by the federal government. It may not directly shift to the states enforcement and administrative responsibilities allocated to the federal government by the Constitution. Such a reallocation would not only diminish the political accountability of both state and federal officers, but it would also compromise the structural framework of dual sovereignty and separation of powers. Thus, Congress may not directly force states to assume enforcement or administrative responsibilities constitutionally vested in the federal government. Forcing subfederal entities to allow voluntary cooperation raises the spector of violating those principles. [UC Irvine Law Review, 2012]

    https://mediamatters.org/research/2015/07/07/fox-news-falsely-claims-sanctuary-cities-violat/204286
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    27 Mar '17 19:313 edits
    Originally posted by Great King Rat
    Isn't Jesus known for all kinds of magical tricks? Couldn't he just flick his fingers and fix that dam?
    No, no, Jesus can part the waters, or maybe even walk on water, but there is no fixing, I repeat, no fixing failing damns.

    Please read your Bible before commenting further.

    Thanks in advance.
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    27 Mar '17 19:311 edit
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    I always find your gross inconsistencies amusing. You are a constant screecher for all manner of policies that would limit Federal power (even explicit grants of such power in the Constitution) in favor of States and localities EXCEPT when the policy is something you and your fellow right wingers don't like. In point of fact, "sanctuary cities" are not i ...[text shortened]... ps://mediamatters.org/research/2015/07/07/fox-news-falsely-claims-sanctuary-cities-violat/204286
    Never mind that, I'm worried that the governor of California might excommunicate Trump! 😲

    We sit here discussing about a man's eternal fate and all you can do is talk politics?
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    27 Mar '17 19:32
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    No, but it is the Jewish thing to do.
    So isn't Jesus Jewish?

    Thanks, now I'm confused more than ever! 😠
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    27 Mar '17 19:341 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    No, but it is the Jewish thing to do.
    No, it is the Israeli thing to do. There is a difference. When you refer to Americans, you don't say 'the Christians and when you are referring to Saudi Arabians, you don't say "the muslims".
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    27 Mar '17 19:47
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    No, it is the Israeli thing to do. There is a difference. When you refer to Americans, you don't say 'the Christians and when you are referring to Saudi Arabians, you don't say "the muslims".
    God help us man, don't turn this into another Zionist thread!

    Have you lost all reason? 😲
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    27 Mar '17 19:52
    Originally posted by whodey
    Is the governor ushering in a theocratic government?
    Isn't that what all Reps do when they oppose abortion or claim "religious rights" to discriminate against gays?
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    27 Mar '17 19:562 edits
    Originally posted by Ash to Twhitehead
    No, it is the Israeli thing to do. There is a difference. When you refer to Americans, you don't say 'the Christians
    and when you are referring to Saudi Arabians, you don't say "the muslims".
    I take care to make distinctions among the terms 'Israeli', 'Jew', and 'Zionist'.
    I have to say, however, that it's common for Westerners to stereotype all Arabs as Muslims.
    As I recall, an established American writer wrongly called Mecca 'the holy city of the Arabs'.
    I doubt that non-Muslim Arabs regard Mecca as their 'holy city'.
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    27 Mar '17 19:59
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    No, it is the Israeli thing to do. There is a difference. When you refer to Americans, you don't say 'the Christians and when you are referring to Saudi Arabians, you don't say "the muslims".
    Point taken. You are correct.
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    27 Mar '17 20:021 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    So isn't Jesus Jewish?
    Jesus, if he ever existed, was Jewish, yes. But Christians, despite the name, do not follow either Jesus' teachings nor Jewish teachings. Christianity as it is today, was at least in part created by the Romans who were very much into building walls.

    Thanks, now I'm confused more than ever! 😠
    Now that's logically impossible. You have been at the maximum of possible confusion for years.
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