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Originally posted by checkbaiterThat's a pretty evasive response to a factually correct statement. In case you haven't read the Bible, Joseph and Mary along with Jesus fled to Egypt to escape government persecution, much like say refugees from Syria do today. If that country had refused them entry or sent them back, Jesus would have been killed and your religion would have a pretty difficult doctrinal problem.
Is that the best you have? I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and sh.. a better response than that.😛
So your faith is based on a policy towards refugees that you don't follow. Makes you think, doesn't it?
EDIT: In case they didn't teach you the Bible in your cult:
Matthew 2:13 Now when they were departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I tell thee: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. 14 And he arose and took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt; 15 and was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, [a]Out of Egypt did I call my son.
16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the [b]Wise-men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the male children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the borders thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had exactly learned of the [c]Wise-men.
American Standard Version
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+2%3A13-18&version=ASV
Originally posted by no1marauderSo you want to equate illegals of today with events two thousand years ago?🙄
That's a pretty evasive response to a factually correct statement. In case you haven't read the Bible, Joseph and Mary along with Jesus fled to Egypt to escape government persecution, much like say refugees from Syria do today. If that country had refused them entry or sent them back, Jesus would have been killed and your religion would have a pretty dif ...[text shortened]... n Standard Version
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+2%3A13-18&version=ASV
Originally posted by no1marauderYou think man could have prevented God from protecting Jesus?
That's a pretty evasive response to a factually correct statement. In case you haven't read the Bible, Joseph and Mary along with Jesus fled to Egypt to escape government persecution, much like say refugees from Syria do today. If that country had refused them entry or sent them back, Jesus would have been killed and your religion would have a pretty dif ...[text shortened]... n Standard Version
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+2%3A13-18&version=ASV
Originally posted by EladarA difficult theological question, but nonetheless if Egyptian officials had been willing and able to follow the policies espoused regarding refugees by some here, Jesus would have been returned to Judea and killed (absent some further intervention by God).
You think man could have prevented God from protecting Jesus?
Originally posted by no1marauderNot difficult at all. Satan could not prevent God's plan. Wiping out babies didn't stop Moses, nor did it stop Jesus.
A difficult theological question, but nonetheless if Egyptian officials had been willing and able to follow the policies espoused regarding refugees by some here, Jesus would have been returned to Judea and killed (absent some further intervention by God).
Originally posted by no1marauderYou are missing the point. In the end you are one of the created inferiors, so your opinion means nothing.
You're dodging the point as expected.
Your Monster God killed babies to make sure Moses and the Hebrews got away according to the fairy tale in the OT BTW.
Originally posted by checkbaiterAnd apparently, you have to believe in the 'righteousness' of the current oligarchy, right?
If you believe the bible and submit to Jesus Christ, you are on the right road.
Jesus himself would spit on these self-righteous rich men running the country because of the way they treat the least of his brethren.
Matthew 25:40, KJV
Originally posted by SuzianneFirst of all, Jesus would not spit on anyone. But he would take issue with a party or movement that endorses and cheers the slaughter of millions of innocent babies.
And apparently, you have to believe in the 'righteousness' of the current oligarchy, right?
Jesus himself would spit on these self-righteous rich men running the country because of the way they treat the least of his brethren.
Matthew 25:40, KJV
Originally posted by no1marauderTry reading Psalm 139
Jesus as a devout Jew wouldn't think of the unborn as babies or nefesh as already shown.
(NKJV) For You formed my inward parts;
You covered me in my mother's womb.
14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Marvelous are Your works,
And that my soul knows very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.
Originally posted by checkbaiterDon't see anything there about ZEFs being nefesh. Do you dispute the accuracy of the Jewish source I provided?
Try reading Psalm 139
(NKJV) For You formed my inward parts;
You covered me in my mother's womb.
14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Marvelous are Your works,
And that my soul knows very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from You,
When I was made in secret,
And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.