Conservative economics

@Eladar no you cannot get unemployment if you are fired for misconduct or if you quit. https://www.thebalancecareers.com/can-i-collect-unemployment-if-i-am-fired-2064150

@Phranny

You said fired. Do your job poorly and get fired then collect unemployment.

@averagejoe1 said
All of the above bespeaks Socialism. I don’t agree with the tenets of Socialism. Y’all all get in that bed with Bernie. Creepy.

I’ll thank you to let me teach my children to be independent and make good choices. You tell your kids about govt.

You know, Bernie often says every person (he does not say citizen) deserves healthcare. You too are saying that.


They absolutely do not.

Yes, I believe every person deserves health care. If you are impoverished does that mean you get no fire department service or police protection or public education? I think not. I also think it is outrageous that prescription drugs have risen to the point where some cannot afford to live.

Because we have government run public services such as police, fire, military, research, schools including public colleges and universities, Social Security and Medicare we are already a social democracy. By the way, workers pay into Social Security and Medicare. It is not a government handout.

@eladar said
@Phranny

You said fired. Do your job poorly and get fired then collect unemployment.

Please check out this site which I posted once. https://www.thebalancecareers.com/can-i-collect-unemployment-if-i-am-fired-2064150

@Phranny

I already know. It may require getting a lawyer the first time or two.

@phranny said
Yes, I believe every person deserves health care. If you are impoverished does that mean you get no fire department service or police protection or public education? I think not. I also think it is outrageous that prescription drugs have risen to the point where some cannot afford to live.

Because we have government run public services such as police, fire, military, resea ...[text shortened]... emocracy. By the way, workers pay into Social Security and Medicare. It is not a government handout.

Everyone in the US does get healthcare. Poor people qualify for medicaid. Others are expected to pay themselves.

@averagejoe1 said
That’s all over, easy to find. MSNBC, Bernie, the aoc person. A lot of connecting up, as far as I can tell.

You have no idea what the tenets of socialism are?

@quackquack said
Everyone in the US does get healthcare. Poor people qualify for medicaid. Others are expected to pay themselves.

And pay, and pay, and pay, and pay, and pay.

@phranny said
Yes, I believe every person deserves health care. If you are impoverished does that mean you get no fire department service or police protection or public education? I think not. I also think it is outrageous that prescription drugs have risen to the point where some cannot afford to live.

Because we have government run public services such as police, fire, military, resea ...[text shortened]... emocracy. By the way, workers pay into Social Security and Medicare. It is not a government handout.

You are saying that in addition to paying into Social Security and Medicare, that there should be a third item, which is healthcare for all. I would think that is for another thread. (I can’t wait to see how that would be threshed out as to who gets work from whom).

Anyway the only point I was making, is that Bernie says that everyone deserves healthcare right now. That is a falsehood. Y’all should be careful defending Bernie’s promises and statements .

@averagejoe1 said
You are saying that in addition to paying into Social Security and Medicare, that there should be a third item, which is healthcare for all. I would think that is for another thread. (I can’t wait to see how that would be threshed out as to who gets work from whom).

Anyway the only point I was making, is that Bernie says that everyone deserves healthcare right now. That is a falsehood. Y’all should be careful defending Bernie’s promises and statements .

A statement that "everyone (or anyone) deserves X" cannot be a "falsehood" as it is a personal value judgment.

@livineasy4 said
People who buy it, like an insurance policy on your car or house, or people who qualify under government programs.

@wolfgang59 said
Who does deserve healthcare?
@livineasy4 said
People who buy it, like an insurance policy on your car or house, or people who qualify under government programs.
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You think those 2 groups are the people who deserve healthcare?
People with money.
People who qualify under government programs.

What makes either of those groups more
deserving than those who do not deserve healthcare?

@averagejoe1 said
Further, there is nothing in the Constitution about healthcare.

Nor nuclear weapons and microwave ovens.

@wolfgang59

The group who will not work.

@no1marauder said
A statement that "everyone (or anyone) deserves X" cannot be a "falsehood" as it is a personal value judgment.

Then I stand corrected, EXCEPT that I am QUOTING Bernie stating it as a fact!

@wolfgang59 said
@wolfgang59 said
Who does deserve healthcare?
@livineasy4 said
People who buy it, like an insurance policy on your car or house, or people who qualify under government programs.
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You think those 2 groups are the people who deserve healthcare?
People with money.
People ...[text shortened]... ams.

What makes either of those groups more
deserving than those who do not deserve healthcare?

Uhhhh. Capitalism? Because, the only way to make us all equal (you, me; congressmen, preachers. bus boys, the President, ) and have the government cover our insurance would be to have government take over our healthcare, which is Socialism. Are you for real?