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COVID Vaccines Saved 3 Million Lives in US

COVID Vaccines Saved 3 Million Lives in US

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@shavixmir said
Yes. Read the whole article.
Realise when it was written.
Then do some proper bloody research.

The Ford Fiesta utilises Formula 1 technology. For example: buttons on the steering wheel.
Yet, surprisingly enough, the Ford Fiesta isn’t a Formula 1 racing car.

Moron.
Shag doody for brains,

I see that some of your moronic bestiality posts have been taken down, just to let you know I never dobb you in, let them stand as testament to your wit and character, someone is doing you a great favour removing evidence of your idiocracy. You should thank them.

sincerely

Wajoma


@shavixmir said
Gene vaccines are considerd to be vaccines which change the gene.
mRNA vaccines do not change genes. Infact, instead of introducing a live virus for the body to recognise and fight, it teaches the body to fight the virus without using live material.
And that’s basically it.

If it was a gene vaccine, it would change the gene /dna in someway. It doesn’t.
So, it’s not ...[text shortened]... vaccines are gene vaccines, because a live virus is RNA as well.

It’s not really rocket science.
Gene vaccines are not defined by changing the recipient’s DNA and no, standard vaccines work by injecting proteins directly, not by injecting mRNA for the cell to then process into protein.


@shavixmir said
Gene vaccines are considerd to be vaccines which change the gene.
mRNA vaccines do not change genes. Infact, instead of introducing a live virus for the body to recognise and fight, it teaches the body to fight the virus without using live material.
And that’s basically it.

If it was a gene vaccine, it would change the gene /dna in someway. It doesn’t.
So, it’s not ...[text shortened]... vaccines are gene vaccines, because a live virus is RNA as well.

It’s not really rocket science.
There is hope:

https://odysee.com/@voicesforfreedom:6/What-Is-Rebuild-Free:b?fbclid=IwAR1OOsUlwgpzqaYZRMNoYYutGDcGIFghZEsyzAlCBRqSlPZukbQxfcK-K84

VFF is a NZ organisation that avoided protests but were very active with things like leaflet drops and bill boards, the other thing they have done quietly is build local groups all over NZ. Patiently they have built a good solid network. Some groups have purchased land together for a community garden. Goobermint try this crap again it's not going to be so easy.

Queensland Australia went back to amber alert recently, when I got there most Qlders didn't even know such is the level of MSM consumption. We knew more about it in NZ, people are no longer listening to goobermint. Well overdue.


@wajoma said
There is hope:

https://odysee.com/@voicesforfreedom:6/What-Is-Rebuild-Free:b?fbclid=IwAR1OOsUlwgpzqaYZRMNoYYutGDcGIFghZEsyzAlCBRqSlPZukbQxfcK-K84

VFF is a NZ organisation that avoided protests but were very active with things like leaflet drops and bill boards, the other thing they have done quietly is build local groups all over NZ. Patiently they have built a good so ...[text shortened]... sumption. We knew more about it in NZ, people are no longer listening to goobermint. Well overdue.
Most New Zealanders don't believe your anti-vax, conspiracy theories:

90% of 12+ who have completed primary course

73% Percentage of eligible 18+ who have received first booster

https://covid19.govt.nz/news-and-data/covid-19-data-and-statistics/

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First booster LOL even those that love the clot shot know that we're way beyond the first booster, to be up to date you should be on your 5th shot. What are the numbers for those?

Edit: Like so many of your dream feelings, you rely on the force of the state, then say "look how many comply" people were threatened with the lose of their job which in turn meant potentially the lose of their home. Many did lose their job, NZ fire service has a chronic shortage of personnel, refuse the shot, get stood down, they left and they're not going back to an abusive employer. Want to put your ideas to the test, make them voluntary.

Nahhhh, didn't think so. Pathetic.

Double edit: LOL 73% which I doubt but that's another topic, because in the early days they were bragging up higher compliance than that aka lying). LOL the threat was when we get to 90% fully vaxxed (i.e. multiple boosters) we'll allow things to open up again LOL power of the protest, power of resistance.

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@wajoma said
First booster LOL even those that love the clot shot know that we're way beyond the first booster, to be up to date you should be on your 5th shot. What are the numbers for those?

Edit: Like so many of your dream feelings, you rely on the force of the state, then say "look how many comply" people were threatened with the lose of their job which in turn meant potentially th ...[text shortened]... ultiple boosters) we'll allow things to open up again LOL power of the protest, power of resistance.
90% completion of the "primary course" is two shots of Pfizer or Moderna and no boosters.

As I've told you numerous times, since one doesn't have any "right" to spread deadly contagious diseases, reasonable mandatory measures to control such diseases are no more objectionable than speed limits or stop signs around elementary schools.

There is no libertarian principle that allows you to harm others or to unreasonably put them in danger.


@no1marauder said
90% completion of the "primary course" is two shots of Pfizer or Moderna and no boosters.

As I've told you numerous times, since one doesn't have any "right" to spread deadly contagious diseases, reasonable mandatory measures to control such diseases are no more objectionable than speed limits or stop signs around elementary schools.

There is no libertarian principle that allows you to harm others or to unreasonably put them in danger.
"one doesn't have any "right" to spread deadly contagious diseases"

Stop being an idiot!
Why do you think those that took the gene vaccine were told to still wear face masks? Because they are spreading a deadly contagious disease. Your favorite false narrative was debunked long ago. Stop doubling down on lies!

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@no1marauder said
90% completion of the "primary course" is two shots of Pfizer or Moderna and no boosters.

As I've told you numerous times, since one doesn't have any "right" to spread deadly contagious diseases, reasonable mandatory measures to control such diseases are no more objectionable than speed limits or stop signs around elementary schools.

There is no libertarian principle that allows you to harm others or to unreasonably put them in danger.
You have to prove harm first. You can't go locking up people, destroying their businesses and careers because you're scared of the wuflu and they may have it but probably don't. Also you have no right from stopping those people from interacting with each other. You don't own society.

If you can prove someone had wuflu, knew about it and went about intentionally spreading it, you may have a case. The closest I've seen to intentionally spreading is mask zombies who play with their virus farm masks then handle products in the store and put them back on the shelf.

Other than that,burden of proof is on you. Can't just point a finger and say 'you might have wuflu, guilty'.

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@wajoma said
You have to prove harm first. You can't go locking up people, destroying their businesses and careers because you're scared of the wuflu and they may have it but probably don't. Also you have no right from stopping those people from interacting with each other. You don't own society.

If you can prove someone had wuflu, knew about it and went about intentionally spreading ...[text shortened]... an that,burden of proof is on you. Can't just point a finger and say 'you might have wuflu, guilty'.
Have you noticed this? The SARS2 virus from China must be more deadly than in the USA and UK. Why else would they adopt a policy of treating covid there in China worse than covid here?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/28/us-will-require-airline-passengers-traveling-from-china-to-test-negative-for-covid-.html

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/uk-announces-covid-19-restrictions-china-arrivals

Is the USA deliberately releasing more deadly GE viruses in China?
Why else would they adopt a policy that makes no sense when SARS2 is everywhere in the world? Something must be different about SARS2 in China than the rest of the world. If not, why the restrictions on people from China?

What are they not telling us?


@metal-brain said
Have you noticed this? The SARS2 virus from China must be more deadly than in the USA and UK. Why else would they adopt a policy of treating covid there in China worse than covid here?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/28/us-will-require-airline-passengers-traveling-from-china-to-test-negative-for-covid-.html

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/uk-announces-covid-19-restr ...[text shortened]... st of the world. If not, why the restrictions on people from China?

What are they not telling us?
I remember the Aussie manager in Guam finally got a trip home, after doing all the tests and quarantining on arrival in Aus to prevent bringing covid to Aus, A couple of days after being released from detention he caught covid, in Australia so went back into quarantine after which it was time to fly back to work only to have to quarantine in Guam again.

You'll never make any sense out of the controls, the inconsistencies, the contradictions, the 'do as I say, not as I do' hypocrisy, it's just power trippers power tripping. We've got a few wannabe power trippers here, at RHP.


@metal-brain said
"one doesn't have any "right" to spread deadly contagious diseases"

Stop being an idiot!
Why do you think those that took the gene vaccine were told to still wear face masks? Because they are spreading a deadly contagious disease. Your favorite false narrative was debunked long ago. Stop doubling down on lies!
Because a vaccination means you’re protected from the worst effects of a disease. You can still catch it and spread it.

Did you float up the Mississippi on a water biscuit or something?

You do know that people who are vaccinated against the flu, still get the flu, don’t you? They just don’t get as sick from it or die.
And those who catch the flu often catch it from people who were vaccinated against the flu.

That’s the difference between rapidly mutating diseases like influenza and covid compared to relatively stable diseases like measles and small pox.


@metal-brain said
Have you noticed this? The SARS2 virus from China must be more deadly than in the USA and UK. Why else would they adopt a policy of treating covid there in China worse than covid here?

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/28/us-will-require-airline-passengers-traveling-from-china-to-test-negative-for-covid-.html

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/uk-announces-covid-19-restr ...[text shortened]... st of the world. If not, why the restrictions on people from China?

What are they not telling us?
Nobody knows. China is not releasing data (or not as far as I know).

However. Whatever the case, it’s not the US releasing extra potent Sars in bloody China. Get a grip on reality boy.


@shavixmir said
Because a vaccination means you’re protected from the worst effects of a disease. You can still catch it and spread it.

Did you float up the Mississippi on a water biscuit or something?

You do know that people who are vaccinated against the flu, still get the flu, don’t you? They just don’t get as sick from it or die.
And those who catch the flu often catch it from p ...[text shortened]... diseases like influenza and covid compared to relatively stable diseases like measles and small pox.
Do you know what snake oil is, you're drinking it.

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@sh76 said
@mchill @sonhouse @kevcvs57 @kewpie @AThousandYoung

Anyone?

@no1marauder I'm also happy to listen to your thoughts, though if you're just going to call me a covid minimizer and run, you can save your breath.
SH - I understand what you're saying and agree the documentation on this has been (at best) sketchy. Personally, I think statements such as "COVID Vaccines Saved 3 Million Lives in US" is irresponsible, even if true, since it's far from provable.

Sadly, statements such as this serve to provide fuel to the anti - vax crowd, who are eager to minimize the value of vaccines, a concept promoted by our beloved ex-President, who knew absolutely nothing about medicine.

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@wajoma said
You have to prove harm first. You can't go locking up people, destroying their businesses and careers because you're scared of the wuflu and they may have it but probably don't. Also you have no right from stopping those people from interacting with each other. You don't own society.

If you can prove someone had wuflu, knew about it and went about intentionally spreading ...[text shortened]... an that,burden of proof is on you. Can't just point a finger and say 'you might have wuflu, guilty'.
You'd think that more than 5 million dead, millions more hospitalized and millions more effected with disorders caused by COVID19 ("long COVID" ) worldwide would be sufficient to show "risk of harm" to any but a small group of nutters. But unfortunately we have governors here just as deranged as you:

This year we continued to push back on the radical left’s woke agenda and defend your medical freedom.

✅ Banned CRT
✅ Blocked Biden’s COVID Vaccine Mandates
✅ Banned COVID Vaccine Passports

We’ll continue standing up for YOU in 2023!

Tate Reeves, Governor of Mississippi

https://twitter.com/tatereeves/status/1609251363380240386

Data: Mississippi ranks first in the country for highest COVID19 death rate

https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1609640741915037700/photo/1

A just society is ran by elected officials doing the will of the People constrained only by reason and respect for individual Natural Rights. Any reasonable and sane society is going to take measures to protect the People from deadly, contagious diseases. That this is inconvenient to some is not a reason to vary from such principles.