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@KellyJay said
They had a number that they were going to let in if reached then what?
Present law states the following:

"[a]ny alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien's status, may apply for asylum." Id. § 1158(a)(1) (2018).

8 U.S.C. § 1158

(Emphasis added)

https://casetext.com/case/covenant-v-trump-1

In that case, Trump tried to deny any migrant who crossed at a point besides a designated port of entry the ability to apply for asylum, but the courts blocked that attempt based on the clear wording of the law. The border bill which Trump blocked would have given the President that authority IF the emergency authority was triggered by the amount of border crossings specified in the bill.


@KellyJay said
Yes it is not meant to close the border, simply make processings easier.
So you want the "border closed" i.e. no one can enter or leave the United States?

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@no1marauder said
So you want the "border closed" i.e. no one can enter or leave the United States?
Illegally no, legally yes! That a hard concept to grasp?

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@KellyJay said
Illegally no, legally yes! That a hard concept to grasp?
Did you read what I wrote?

Most of people who you and your ring wing propaganda outlets claim are here "illegally" actually aren't (at least those crossing now and in the last few years). Most are asylum seekers or under other legal provisions that afford that a lawful ability to remain in the US unless and until their cases are processed.

So yes, it's hard to grasp why you are so ignorant of this.

The border is "closed" to those who enter illegally and those who do are removed (it would be impossible to actually criminally prosecute them).

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@no1marauder said
Did you read what I wrote?

Most of people who you and your ring wing propaganda outlets claim are here "illegally" actually aren't (at least those crossing now and in the last few years). Most are asylum seekers or under other legal provisions that afford that a lawful ability to remain in the US unless and until their cases are processed.

So yes, it's hard to grasp ...[text shortened]... legally and those who do are removed (it would be impossible to actually criminally prosecute them).
Yeah, they change the status so it is all good, that same the way crime rates go low. Simply stop charging people for stealing it’s all good crime rates are down. You playing word games just highlights why that bill is not good.

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@KellyJay said
Yeah, they change the status so it is all good, that same the way crime rates go low. Simply stop charging people for stealing it’s all good crime rates are down. You playing word games just highlights why that bill is not good.
The law I cited has been in effect for more than four decades.

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@no1marauder said
The law I cited has been in effect for more than four decades.
And the flood gates on the border have been opened since the current administration started.

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@KellyJay said
And the flood gates on the border have been opened since the current administration started.
A right wing fairy tale that gullible fools like yourself have fallen for hook, line and sinker.

And still not a single actual specific proposal on what to do about this largely imaginary "crisis"!

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@KellyJay said
And the flood gates on the border have been opened since the current administration started.
Of course, immigration under the circumstances the US is presently under has a large net economic benefit, so attempts to discourage it are beyond foolish.

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@no1marauder said
Of course, immigration under the circumstances the US is presently under has a large net economic benefit, so attempts to discourage it are beyond foolish.
Anything can look good as long as you ignore the downside.

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@no1marauder said
A right wing fairy tale that gullible fools like yourself have fallen for hook, line and sinker.

And still not a single actual specific proposal on what to do about this largely imaginary "crisis"!
Being willfully blind doesn't change the facts.

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@KellyJay said
Anything can look good as long as you ignore the downside.
Apparently you never learned what the word "net" means.

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@no1marauder said
Apparently you never learned what the word "net" means.
I know what murder and rape mean and people are being murdered and raped by those who should not be in this country, save for the desire of the democratic party who voted against a bill that would have kicked out those who committed those types of crimes. So you are defending those being allowed in, and keeping them here even after those crimes is trashing the whole country. Defending that speaks more about you than anything else.

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@KellyJay said
I know what murder and rape mean and people are being murdered and raped by those who should not be in this country, save for the desire of the democratic party who voted against a bill that would have kicked out those who committed those types of crimes. So you are defending those being allowed in, and keeping them here even after those crimes is trashing the whole country. Defending that speaks more about you than anything else.
What BS.

You really are a lying, ignorant clown.

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@no1marauder said
What BS.

You really are a lying, ignorant clown.
I'm not the one suggesting it is perfectly okay to have our borders open so every criminal under the sun can come in on the taxpayer dime. If that is being a lying, ignorant clown fine by me, I'll take that over what you are pushing.