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@kellyjay said
With good cause, move the frigging prison system out into the Aleutian Islands
in Alaska, put them in tents in the middle of Arizona, don't let them on the streets
as repeat frigging offenders.
Exactly πŸ’―.

The USA has the highest incarceration rate because...They commit a lot of crimes!


@capacrapa said
@no1marauder

Or maybe some people are more likely to commit crimes?

You can't compare one country to another.
They have different population demographics and culture.
Their history is different and so their modern way of life will be different.
"some people"
common, stop being a coward and say which people.

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@kellyjay said
With good cause, move the frigging prison system out into the Aleutian Islands
in Alaska, put them in tents in the middle of Arizona, don't let them on the streets
as repeat frigging offenders.
So what you're advocating for is gulags.

These are the christians of america. The chosen people. God bless America!


@zahlanzi said
"some people"
common, stop being a coward and say which people.
So a coward can report me and try to get me banned?

Open dialog is impossible with you sensitive nancy's

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@Zahlanzi
Also don't forget to genuflect.


@zahlanzi said
So what you're advocating for is gulags.

These are the christians of america. The chosen people. God bless America!
I'm saying if you commit a crime with a weapon, being released onto the streets
to do it, again and again, is braindead stupid.


@capacrapa said
Exactly πŸ’―.

The USA has the highest incarceration rate because...They commit a lot of crimes!
Or maybe because the vast majority of American policing is focused on after the crime happens.
Any attempt to try to solve the problem before the crime occurs is usually labelled as socialism.

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@kellyjay said
I'm saying if you commit a crime with a weapon, being released onto the streets
to do it, again and again, is braindead stupid.
no, it's the basis of a free society. You commit a crime, we lock you up because you are a menace to society, when release it is considered the debt is paid. The point is rehabilitation, not life imprisonment for every fukin crime.


You merciful christians only want prison as retribution and punishment. Not forgiveness and rehabilitation.


@Zahlanzi

Prisons offer rehabilitation courses but they are not mandatory unless a judge orders it.
Most inmates would rather watch TV or do whatever interests them.


@kellyjay said
With good cause, move the frigging prison system out into the Aleutian Islands
in Alaska, put them in tents in the middle of Arizona, don't let them on the streets
as repeat frigging offenders.
Hey, my brother-in-law is a native Aleut who fishes for salmon in the Aleutian waters. He doesn't want your dreck from the lower 48. NIMBY, buddy! πŸ˜‰


@zahlanzi said
no, it's the basis of a free society. You commit a crime, we lock you up because you are a menace to society, when release it is considered the debt is paid. The point is rehabilitation, not life imprisonment for every fukin crime.


You merciful christians only want prison as retribution and punishment. Not forgiveness and rehabilitation.
If locking someone up caused rehabilitation, I'd agree with you; when crimes
are committed repeatedly by the same people, does it sound like they were
rehabilitated to you? Life in prison isn't what I'm abdicating; all I'm saying is
you don't unarm the law bidding due to the crimes of lawbreakers. Taking away
the rights of law bidding because you cannot figure out what to do with the
chronic criminal means you want to make the law bidding vulnerable to
the criminal. It is bad when life is cheap in the eyes of so many, when not being
happy means I'll kill someone; that is the real problem.

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@moonbus said
Hey, my brother-in-law is a native Aleut who fishes for salmon in the Aleutian waters. He doesn't want your dreck from the lower 48. NIMBY, buddy! πŸ˜‰
I was stationed up there one year, three days, seven hours, and forty-five
minutes out on Adak. πŸ™‚ Alaska is a beautiful place, but the water around the
Aleutians is not something anyone would ever want to swim away back to
the mainland; it is quite cold.


@zahlanzi said
no, it's the basis of a free society. You commit a crime, we lock you up because you are a menace to society, when release it is considered the debt is paid. The point is rehabilitation, not life imprisonment for every fukin crime.


You merciful christians only want prison as retribution and punishment. Not forgiveness and rehabilitation.
Forgiveness can only be given by the one that had some crime committed
against them, the victim, it isn't your place to forgive someone for something
you had nothing to do with it; it wasn't done to you.

Retribution is punishment for something that was done, which is different
than revenge, crimes are not typically against society; they are against
individuals, and if we stop caring about individuals who were harmed so
that it isn't repeated, all you have is a revolving door if the hearts are not
changed the actions will continue.

This is nothing to do with removing the ability to defend one's self against
people who think what they want and desire is more important than your
life, or simply because they don't like you for whatever reason, so you are
fair game.

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@zahlanzi said
"some people"
common, stop being a coward and say which people.
Anti-Vaxxer's?


@kellyjay said
I was stationed up there one year, three days, seven hours, and forty-five
minutes out on Adak. πŸ™‚ Alaska is a beautiful place, but the water around the
Aleutians is not something anyone would ever want to swim away back to
the mainland; it is quite cold.
Those waters are known as The Cradle of Storms. I had an uncle who was a WWII fighter pilot stationed in the Aleutians; he flew missions against the Japanese. He said the USAF lost more pilots in that campaign to bad weather than to Japanese gun fire.