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@jj-adams said
As an ex-B-52 crewman, I can verify that the wing flapping thing is an absolute necessity.
The end of the Buff wings droop while on the ground, and at take-off the wingtips raise 17 feet as pressure builds under them.
On low level bomb runs at 400 feet AGL, summer thermals would cause the aircraft to shake violently, but the wings always held together.
Ok good so it was the Air Force. Unless you were in both services…some people do that.

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@averagejoe1 said
Of course, we would be the first country you fellers would call if you got an attack from the Vikings to the north, or from any other country.
Lol

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@kellyjay said
The failure is producing a generation of people who less and less care about
other human beings and more about themselves. Years ago, there were gun
clubs with kids bringing their guns into schools, but now from conception to
the grave, it is all about the individual, what do I want, I should have this, I am
owed that. There isn't a community in a united country anymore; ...[text shortened]... elease them
back into a community where they become repeat offenders is just as
stupid as it gets.
You some kind of collectivist?!

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@moonbus said
Looking at crime from the prison-end of it is like looking at health from the coroner's dissecting table.
That should be a T-shirt!

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@shallow-blue said
And that's exactly why the USA system of "lock 'em up, parasitise them while in prison, kick 'em out and then kick 'em in the nuts, and don't, whatever you do, ever let them have any hope of a real life again" is such inhuman madness.
The prison system is a different issue than good guys with guns! Mainly because good guys with guns are not an issue, that is why we call them good guys. It’s the bad guys with guns that murder rob and commit other crimes!

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@JJ-Adams
My plane was the B47, precursor to the 52. We would see fighter jets take off, brakes on, jets flaming, lets go and the jet juts forward instantly.
Our B47's on the other hand, could not get off the ground on a hot day if they didn't have rocket assist.
Even at that, the engines rev up, it starts vibrating like all hell breaks loose, they let off the brakes and the wings droop near to the ground and with a low grunt it reluctantly starts forward slowly and finally gets off the ground.
For that I spent a full year 6 hours a day at tech school in Denver at Lowry because it was still very complex and I aced the 5-level test.
They said you get a three-day pass if you ace the test and I did, go to the first sergeant to get my three-day pass and he goes, you get Friday off, the other two days are Saturday and Sunday, which we got off every week anyway, so much for the three-day pass....


@athousandyoung said
You some kind of collectivist?!
collectivist?

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@shallow-blue said
Not to be an even greater pedant (who, me!?), but that's merely the high school explanation. In reality it's a lot more complicated than that, and we still don't understand the entire process. Mainly because, well, fluid dynamics is one of the hardest parts of physics currently unsolved. The maths is brain-breakingly difficult. Solve Navier-Stokes, and you'll win not onl ...[text shortened]... a million dollars (literally, it's one of the Millennium Prizes), but also Andrew Wiles-level fame.
"Fermat's Last Theorem" by Simon Singh.

What a book, what a story. The history of the theorem and the story of Wiles' dedication to the problem from when he was a boy, awe inspiring. My favorite maths book by miles.


@averagejoe1 said
Who said the teachers would not be trained? You speak falsehoods!! So, you say we should have less guns? But Sue,the criminal culture will have more guns.
I predict that the people of culture will kill 12 of themselves in Chicago this weekend. What’s your prediction? The ones who stay alive,they will be totin guns. If you lived there Suzy you would be totin. I figure you for an S&W 380. Good choice.
Try again.

My first gun was a Beretta .380, but I sold that. Now all my guns are 9mm Glocks.

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@suzianne said
Try again.

My first gun was a Beretta .380, but I sold that. Now all my guns are 9mm Glocks.
Try again?

What BS this has nothing to do with the post you deleted where you called shallow blue a dickhead and made some incorrect comment about wings.

Liar.


@kellyjay said
The prison system is a different issue than good guys with guns! Mainly because good guys with guns are not an issue, that is why we call them good guys. It’s the bad guys with guns that murder rob and commit other crimes!
"guys with guns are not an issue, "
They are an issue. You've been lied to by the NRA that they are the only ones that can stop the bad guys with guns.

Meanwhile, good guys with guns wait for an hour in the parking lot while the maniac shoots little childre.
Good guys with guns are trained to shoot unarmed civilians at the slightest hint of perceived danger.
Good guys with guns sell their guns to bad guys because the law allows them.
Good guys with guns are supposed to protect children in addition to their job as teachers, in addition to buying school supplies because the government doesn't pay them enough in addition to playing nurse because the government doesn't provide healthcare to children, in addition to sharing their lunch with hungry children because the government doesn't feed them.
Good guys with guns turn out to have been bad guys with guns because the system does jack to figure out which is which when selling them guns. And then they shoot up a school or mall or concert or just their spouses


The myth of the good guy with a gun is the way the NRA convinced you gullible sheep to keep voting for their whores and make the gun industry a fukton of money


@moonbus said
I've never been in prison, so I don't know how much rehabilitation goes on there, or how effective it is. However, I have three family members who know the US prison system from the inside (two of them leave every night when their shifts are done; the other was released); I'll ask them.

As for forgiveness, that is not the business of either the prison system or the society ...[text shortened]... his debt to the victim. In this respect, KJ is right: society cannot forgive, only the victims can.
no no no, i wasn't talking about the US prison system. That is designed for as brutal punishment as possible to appease the right wingers but not make them queasy and to maximize profit for the private system.

They support judges and prosecutors "tough on crime" , they support politicians tough on crime that would pass gruesome laws that would land a person in jail for the dumbest reason.

The US's legal system is a joke


@zahlanzi said

The myth of the good guy with a gun is the way the NRA convinced you gullible sheep to keep voting for their whores and make the gun industry a fukton of money
The difference to your brainwaves zahlooney is it's voluntary. No one forces gun ownership on a citizen then proceeds to charge whatever they like for it.


@zahlanzi said

They support judges and prosecutors "tough on crime" , they support politicians tough on crime that would pass gruesome laws that would land a person in jail for the dumbest reason.
With you on this one zahlooney, there are people still locked up for the January 6th meandering, their crime? a bit of trespass and taking a few selfies.