Government shut down.

@wildgrass said
The court said he didn't have to do what Congress orders. I'm not a trained lawyer but this guy is.

https://www.lawdork.com/p/scotus-impoundment-is-ok-when-trump-does-it

I read the opinions.

I stand by my post. " should not be read as a final determination on the merits" means what I said.https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/09/supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-withhold-billions-in-foreign-aid-funding/

@Mott-The-Hoople said
Yes it’s 100% on democrats.
Denying services for US citizens so they can give it to illegals.

Damn you libs are idiots!
They are not here to join you, they are here to replace you.

Great Replacement Theory.

Sit down. Be quiet. Let the adults speak.

@no1marauder said
I read the opinions.

I stand by my post. " should not be read as a final determination on the merits" means what I said.https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/09/supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-withhold-billions-in-foreign-aid-funding/

But they did say what I said they said... But only this one time? Like a traffic cop issuing a speeding ticket warning, or a traffic cop ignoring the speeding cars?

@AverageJoe1 said
If Kamala were president, I would be asking the same question, will she shut up…..Open Borders, Tran rights , sex change, boy-girl peepee rooms. Made all of us normal people feel a little dirty. You tried to give us her, we are giving yo Trump.!!

You’re giving yourself the orange moron dude.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
nah but you can keep squeaking

it actually gives Trump more power...you libs are dumb

I reckon you don’t comprehend the meaning of dumb.

@wildgrass said
But they did say what I said they said... But only this one time? Like a traffic cop issuing a speeding ticket warning, or a traffic cop ignoring the speeding cars?

They clearly did not rule that the President had unbridled discretion to spend or not spend money already appropriated as you suggested they did.

There's a question of standing and a question whether the Impoundment Act applies and requires Congress to act within 45 days. These do not imply anything regarding the broad issue you stated.

@no1marauder said
They clearly did not rule that the President had unbridled discretion to spend or not spend money already appropriated as you suggested they did.

There's a question of standing and a question whether the Impoundment Act applies and requires Congress to act within 45 days. These do not imply anything regarding the broad issue you stated.

Ok I don't understand your broader point. Maybe they decide different next time, maybe not? We're just guessing whether SCOTUS thinks Trump needs to follow Congresses budget?

I thought kagans dissent made the case clearly that the majority ruling was ignoring the fact that executive had a sworn duty to carry out congressional spending directives. Maybe I was wrong.

If they say he can do it for foreign aid, there's no guardrail left for them to rule the same way on anything else. In fact, if they rule otherwise they expose themselves as hypocrites.

@wildgrass said
Ok I don't understand your broader point. Maybe they decide different next time, maybe not? We're just guessing whether SCOTUS thinks Trump needs to follow Congresses budget?

I thought kagans dissent made the case clearly that the majority ruling was ignoring the fact that executive had a sworn duty to carry out congressional spending directives. Maybe I was wrong.

If ...[text shortened]... the same way on anything else. In fact, if they rule otherwise they expose themselves as hypocrites.

While I agree with Kagan's dissent, I disagree the majority decided the broad issue given the Court explicitly said it didn't.

@no1marauder said
While I agree with Kagan's dissent, I disagree the majority decided the broad issue given the Court explicitly said it didn't.

Doesn't make sense.

@AverageJoe1 said
Another lie, by you this time. Women are allowed in the military. I wish you would be a legit debater so that I don't have to show you out, I want to go play some golf.

Those were HEGSETHS words, woman not welcome in US military.
You don't believe me, google it yourself.

@AverageJoe1 said
Schumer is exactly like you fellers who cannot speak honestly, he was totally disingenuous when he said "The Republicans shut down the government because they did not want to protect the HEALTHCARE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE"!
The truth, which you know not, is that Repubs do not want to Give Away The Healthcare Of The American People To ILLEGAL ALIENS!!! He left that out, Sonhouse. You loser libs make us type unnecessarily about cold facts.
Tiresome.
Losers.

Oh, and how many illegals did you personally find getting medical help?

@no1marauder said
Sad to say, but is the Democrats' fault - they refused to support a clean temporary funding bill (something they always insisted on in prior shutdown standoff).

Trump is going to use this to permanently reduce the federal workforce. It's dumb to give him the opportunity/excuse.

And OF COURSE Trump has analyzed all the consequences and has several plan B and C going on.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
Yes it’s 100% on democrats.
Denying services for US citizens so they can give it to illegals.

Damn you libs are idiots!
They are not here to join you, they are here to replace you.

You are DEEPLY offensive. I don't think you are really a human, I think you are an AI imitating a human.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
nah but you can keep squeaking

it actually gives Trump more power...you libs are dumb

You are HAPPY millions of career men and women in government agencies go home except for you folks we need, but you go back to work with no pay.
SUCH IT UP LOSERS.

@sonhouse said
You are HAPPY millions of career men and women in government agencies go home except for you folks we need, but you go back to work with no pay.
SUCH IT UP LOSERS.

how do you such it up?