@Mott-The-Hoople saidSUCK IT UP THEN, It gives you SUCH good feelings to see democracy failling.
how do you such it up?
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@wildgrass saidKagan's dissent mostly talks about the issue of whether private parties have standing to challenge a Presidential recission that affects their funding.
Doesn't make sense.
She says in her last paragraph " I appreciate that the majority refrains
from offering a definitive view of this dispute and the questions raised in it."
@Cliff-Mashburn saidThe military won’t be getting paid
@sonhouse
OMGWTFBBQ the government has shut down....
Yet here we are and nothing has happened to us.
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@AThousandYoung saidAs if you'd even know someone in the military.....tell us when that happens.
The military won’t be getting paid
@Cliff-Mashburn saidUS? Hey, if you or I were still active we would be ordered in to work, whatever our fields were, WITH NO PAYDAY.
@sonhouse
OMGWTFBBQ the government has shut down....
Yet here we are and nothing has happened to us.
MILLIONS are effected but that means NOTHING to you.
And then there was the bozo and flappy show, Hegseth and some POTUS or other, two BAFOONS disrespecting the top of the top of the military.
It just shows how STUPID both of them were and are and will be.
@no1marauder saidI still don't get it. He can do it now but maybe not later? Why wouldn't he keep doing it?
Kagan's dissent mostly talks about the issue of whether private parties have standing to challenge a Presidential recission that affects their funding.
She says in her last paragraph " I appreciate that the majority refrains
from offering a definitive view of this dispute and the questions raised in it."
I'm not the only one who thinks this.
https://www.vox.com/politics/463335/supreme-court-shutdown-aids-vaccine-trump-impoundment
@wildgrass saidThe main issue is who has legal standing to challenge these actions. The Impoundment Act says the Comptroller, an employee of Congress can, but doesn't expressly allow private lawsuits. That's the main disagreement between the majority and the dissent though even that finding by the majority is described as "preliminary".
I still don't get it. He can do it now but maybe not later? Why wouldn't he keep doing it?
I'm not the only one who thinks this.
https://www.vox.com/politics/463335/supreme-court-shutdown-aids-vaccine-trump-impoundment
People can think what they want but I'm going by what the justices actually said.
@no1marauder saidThe effects of what they decided were to give the president extremely broad discretion of funding appropriations, to the point that budgets don't matter anymore. Until they decide otherwise in the future.
The main issue is who has legal standing to challenge these actions. The Impoundment Act says the Comptroller, an employee of Congress can, but doesn't expressly allow private lawsuits. That's the main disagreement between the majority and the dissent though even that finding by the majority is described as "preliminary".
People can think what they want but I'm going by what the justices actually said.
@wildgrass saidIncorrect for reasons already given.
The effects of what they decided were to give the president extremely broad discretion of funding appropriations, to the point that budgets don't matter anymore. Until they decide otherwise in the future.
The foolish shutdown forced by Democratic intransigence does pretty much do that, however.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidThere are a lot of conservative posts all over the internet just gee-hawing about it, it is a huge laugh, that the disheveled leaderless Dems have put themselves in a really no-win situation, Trump is just beaming. A gift to him. The stock market is unfazed. So are we,,,,,,and Trump.
@sonhouse
OMGWTFBBQ the government has shut down....
Yet here we are and nothing has happened to us.
Like many libs on the forum, no one in the dem party looks ahead at the 'what-ifs' when they do something stupid.
Go ask a guy on the street, as they are giong about their business, about the shutdown. What shutdown, they will say. Only people who went to DC with their families, to see museums, etc, will be affected. Add this to that.." DId you know the dems also want to give health care, paid for by you, to people illegally in this country??" We are picking up more republicans every day!!!!
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@AverageJoe1 saidACA premium subsidies cannot go to undocumented immigrants and the Democrats aren't proposing they do. This is another silly right-wing lie you and the other MAGA idiots have swallowed, hook, line and sinker.https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/30/politics/fact-check-trump-free-health-care-immigration
There are a lot of conservative posts all over the internet just gee-hawing about it, it is a huge laugh, that the disheveled leaderless Dems have put themselves in a really no-win situation, Trump is just beaming. A gift to him. The stock market is unfazed. So are we,,,,,,and Trump.
Like many libs on the forum, no one in the dem party looks ahead at the 'what-if ...[text shortened]... or by you, to people illegally in this country??" We are picking up more republicans every day!!!!
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@no1marauder saidYes, we can agree that some Democrats support expanding healthcare access, including undocumented immigrants and illegal aliens. We are aware that blanket, free healthcare for illegal aliens without restrictions is not under consideration.
ACA premium subsidies cannot go to undocumented immigrants and the Democrats aren't proposing they do. This is another silly right-wing lie you and the other MAGA idiots have swallowed, hook, line and sinker.https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/30/politics/fact-check-trump-free-health-care-immigration
We all know that. But you seem to think we sjould pick and choose, split hairs, invent diff categories or some such, as to who we medicate at our expense.
Put me on record that we need to be VERY strict on free stuff to aliens, we. have enough expense giving free stuff to our citizens. And how about a separate door at emergency rooms for people who are not even supposed to be here? I dont ant my granny getting elbowed by an illegal invader. Next you will escorting illegals to the ER.
Do you realize how many murders/rapes would NOT occur if they were gone the hell out of here?? Do you know that the ones who get killed here would NOT get killed if they were in their own countries where they belong?
Sorry, too much for you to take in.
Edit: There is a clean 24 page Bill on the floor. WHY OH WHY does health care for illegals have to be in a bill about the budget of our strapped country?????
Marauder???
@AverageJoe1 saidIt's a pathetic lie no matter how you spin it.
Yes, we can agree that some Democrats support expanding healthcare access, including undocumented immigrants and illegal aliens. We are aware that blanket, free healthcare for illegal aliens without restrictions is not under consideration.
We all know that. But you seem to think we sjould pick and choose, split hairs, invent diff categories or some such, as to who w ...[text shortened]... re for illegals have to be in a bill about the budget of our strapped country?????
Marauder???
There is no such proposal in the Democratic demands and undocumented immigrants aren't eligible for any federal health programs.
So please stop believing your BS leader when he says differently.
@no1marauder
Remember when all the Dem candidates raised their hands to support healthcare for illegal immigrants?
https://x.com/Richard_Harambe/status/1973503181394194635