@shavixmir saidWell, you mentioned above about providing people medical aid who need it. So if there are two people in a line, one legally in the line and one not, and you only have medical aid enough for one of them, we would naturally give it to the person who is legally in the line. A lot of the posts of you guys ignore those distinctions when you write your posts, which leave your post dangling in the air, which is what I mean when I say you never close your posts, you say something that is not complete.
What on Earth are you babbling on aboot, man?
Bad Karma.
@kmax87 saidOf course. It is a budget Bill. The Democrats have jumped into the fray and caused major upheaval by mentioning healthcare in involving people from other countries you are not legally in this country. I don’t know how I could make it simpler.
Can you please explain what supporting a clean temporary funding bill means, and how long it kicks the can down the road before both sides are locked into the same stand-off again. What's the point if they only postpone matters a little?
It is a budget bill
@Mott-The-Hoople saidThis post by Mott is an example of making distinctions as to the legal status of people affected by the bill and by medical healthcare in this country.
“Child Health Plus: All New York children can get Child Health Plus, regardless of immigration status or income.
Medicaid: Free or very low-cost insurance for New Yorkers with low income.
If you are pregnant, you can get Medicaid regardless of immigration status, as long as you meet other requirements.
Undocumented adults who are 65 and older might be eligible for ...[text shortened]... ou meet other requirements”
https://www.nyc.gov/site/ochia/find-what-fits/immigrants.page
Libs think we are all in the same family sitting around the same table. You could be not more wrong.
@sonhouse saidSo you think selling children is acceptable?
You might like Canada better and they speak English most everywhere in Canada.
ANYONE gets sick in Canada, NO QUESTIONS LIKE are you a citizen? Have you sold children? Do you sell drugs?
I guess you HATE that idea of an entire country SO STUPID they want to make health care available to EVERYONE inside Canada, citizen or not.
@AverageJoe1 saidCheck out the post where ALL democrats pres candidates said they would give illegals free healthcare.
This post by Mott is an example of making distinctions as to the legal status of people affected by the bill and by medical healthcare in this country.
Libs think we are all in the same family sitting around the same table. You could be not more wrong.
I dont know how you can get through to theses marauders and sonhouses the democrats are using them, they are not for them.
@AverageJoe1 saidA problem with "debating" right wingers is that no matter how many times they are shown something their propaganda machine told them isn't so, they still insist on believing the lie.
Of course. It is a budget Bill. The Democrats have jumped into the fray and caused major upheaval by mentioning healthcare in involving people from other countries you are not legally in this country. I don’t know how I could make it simpler.
It is a budget bill
That nothing in the Democratic proposals at issue now would expand health care to undocumented immigrants is a truth these gullible fools choose to ignore.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou would give it to the person who needs it most. So children before adults, etc.
Well, you mentioned above about providing people medical aid who need it. So if there are two people in a line, one legally in the line and one not, and you only have medical aid enough for one of them, we would naturally give it to the person who is legally in the line. A lot of the posts of you guys ignore those distinctions when you write your posts, which leave your ...[text shortened]... mean when I say you never close your posts, you say something that is not complete.
Bad Karma.
The right to health, safety, etc. far exceeds pathetic laws about where a person is allowwd to reside.
Oh, just in case you really hold a different belief, it’s factual. It’s called international law (i.e. treaties). They are higher than national law.
Jist sayin’, you fellars sometimes need a bit of schooling…
@AverageJoe1 saidTHE GOVERNMENT IS SHUT DOWN and all you can think about are illegals?
Give Sonhouse five stars for saying illegal immigrants instead of randomly saying immigrants. thank you sonhouse.
so let me get this straight. You are saying that illegal immigrants are not a problem. You should start a separate thread on that one, so that we can shred it.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidWell OF COURSE, I have already sold 240 of the bastards. 20K bucks for each one....
So you think selling children is acceptable?
@shavixmir saidOh, so all this health care comes off the free tree?
You would give it to the person who needs it most. So children before adults, etc.
The right to health, safety, etc. far exceeds pathetic laws about where a person is allowwd to reside.
Oh, just in case you really hold a different belief, it’s factual. It’s called international law (i.e. treaties). They are higher than national law.
Jist sayin’, you fellars sometimes need a bit of schooling…
International law 😂
@no1marauder saidCommon sense dictates that we don't trust what leftists say.
A problem with "debating" right wingers is that no matter how many times they are shown something their propaganda machine told them isn't so, they still insist on believing the lie.
That nothing in the Democratic proposals at issue now would expand health care to undocumented immigrants is a truth these gullible fools choose to ignore.
Is it true that federal Medicaid dollars and ACA subsidies are not supposed to go to illegals? Yes!
But:
Do Democrats want to fund healthcare for illegals? Yes they do, they all raised their hands.
Do Democrat run states currently fund healthcare for illegals? Yes they do.
https://www.newsweek.com/states-offering-health-coverage-undocumented-migrants-2077861
Is money fungible? Why yes, yes it is.
Are Democrats trying to roll back provisions in the OBBB that limited eligibility for health benefits to U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents, Cuban and Haitian entrants, and lawful residents under the Compact of Free Association, thereby stopping eligibility for illegal aliens and other aliens that are here on a temporary basis? YES THEY ARE.
@shavixmir saidYou make comments which you imply universally apply to everyone on the planet. That is what you are saying. You are saying international law and treaties dictate that all countries would give anything to anyone that needs it. The word need is subjective., man. If there is a church down the street where my friend goes, who gives the church $100,000 a year tithing,, and an illegal Mexican comes into get the last Covid shot that exists in the town, only one of them can have the shot. They are equally as sick. One is totally accepted and qualified to be sitting in that church. One is not.
You would give it to the person who needs it most. So children before adults, etc.
The right to health, safety, etc. far exceeds pathetic laws about where a person is allowwd to reside.
Oh, just in case you really hold a different belief, it’s factual. It’s called international law (i.e. treaties). They are higher than national law.
Jist sayin’, you fellars sometimes need a bit of schooling…
Tell us about the rights of each person. From whom do the rights come? Is the church member’s right more than the so-called right of the Mexican person? Or do you pick the person who came illegally into the country where the church is…
I could keep writing , but it could not be more plain. It
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@no1marauder said, Democratic proposals for healthcare often focus on expanding coverage, reducing costs, and increasing accessibility. This includes policies like expanding Medicaid, lowering the Medicare eligibility age, and sometimes even pushing for a single-payer system. The goal is typically to make healthcare more affordable and accessible to everyone.
A problem with "debating" right wingers is that no matter how many times they are shown something their propaganda machine told them isn't so, they still insist on believing the lie.
That nothing in the Democratic proposals at issue now would expand health care to undocumented immigrants is a truth these gullible fools choose to ignore.
I pulled this off of ChatGPT. Is she just as wrong as rain?
And you think that WE are a problem!!!!!
@sonhouse saidSunhouse, what if we did not think about illegals?!?!. What if you had a fenced in backyard and dogs from all over the neighborhood were getting into your backyard. Eating your dog food. Blah blah blah. Are you just going to go play golf and not think about invading dogs?
THE GOVERNMENT IS SHUT DOWN and all you can think about are illegals?
Please answer, and do not pull a Susie and say people are not dogs. These are the types of issues that go right over your head.