Originally posted by Bosse de NageThe reason Muslims kill their children/spouses/female relatives is quite simple: their religion compels them to.
Obviously a lot of honour killings occur throughout the world. Read the articles I posted! It's tragic. How anyone could kill their own child is beyond me. Etc. Does your question have a point?
Originally posted by torch71Are you suggesting that middle-eastern immigrants to India are carrying out Hindu-style honour killings? Or is your notion of "middle-eastern" flexible enough to cover several continents?
Are you saying there are no middle-eastern men in India or Pakistan or even in America for that matter?
Originally posted by Bosse de NageI opened up the papers this morning and saw that Muslims are killing each other in Palestine, Iraq and Lebanon; I won't bore you with the details about how they aren't getting along with their Christian, Jewish, animist, Hindu or Buddhist neighbors in other countries. Perhaps you're the stupid one?
Why do you work so hard on convincing people that you're stupid?
You know very well that it does not. Blowhard.
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Originally posted by der schwarze RitterRead the links I posted in this thread and tell me. Also explain why honour killings do not take place in Muslim countries like Indonesia if Islam compels people to kill their children.
I opened up the papers this morning and saw that Muslims are killing each other in Palestine, Iraq and Lebanon; I won't bore you with the details about how they aren't getting along with their Christian, Jewish, animist, Hindu or Buddhist neighbors in other countries. Perhaps you're the stupid one?
Originally posted by Bosse de NageWhat I am saying is that is is far more of a problem in the middle-east, that is not to say that it is not found in other countries. To make it as plain as possible for you so you do not try to further put words in my mouth that I did not say, the idiotic individuals that commit these terrible acts do not only stay soley in the middle east, they actually move to other countries as well. And they bring thier (cultures and religions if you will use what you want) with them.
Are you suggesting that middle-eastern immigrants to India are carrying out Hindu-style honour killings? Or is your notion of "middle-eastern" flexible enough to cover several continents?
The recent honour killing in the UK was a Muslim girl killed for dating a Muslim man. If that was the only factor, there clearly would not have been a problem. Opposing tribes of every relgion and race have been killing each other throughout human history. Relgion is one of those things that gets thrown about and blamed, but at the end of the day when a person kills someone else, they do it as an individual. Religion doesn't cause the worlds problems, people do. It's people who invented relgion and people who misinturpreted it. No religion is better then another; if you lived in a Muslim contry like Iraq you could be forgiven for hating the 'Christian' soilders who is killing your cilivilians(or more acuratly the Christian state). Its all about the perspective you veiw the argument from.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageI can't explain why the heathen rages but I do know that Muslims are willing to kill for their religion.
Read the links I posted in this thread and tell me. Also explain why honour killings do not take place in Muslim countries like Indonesia if Islam compels people to kill their children.
Originally posted by Jake EllisonYou're misinformed: Mass murder, anti-Semitism, honor killings and female genital mutilation are not practiced, condoned, nor institutionalized in Christianity. Moreover, if there were any instance of these things in modern times, they would have been denounced immediately and loudly by an overwhelming majority of Christians.
So are plenty of Christians. Plenty have both in modern times and historically.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterWhat about Catholics v.s Protestants in northen Ireland? Plenty of fighting and bombs there last century. Wasn't just paramilitary groups fighting each other either. Some IRA members killed a man with no association to an organisation just because he was a Protestant. Fairly brutal murder too. This happened on at least one incidence but I think it was several.
You're misinformed: Mass murder, anti-Semitism, honor killings and female genital mutilation are not practiced, condoned, nor institutionalized in Christianity. Moreover, if there were any instance of these things in modern times, they would have been denounced immediately and loudly by an overwhelming majority of Christians.
Just a small point, Islam is around the same age that Christianity was at the time of the crusades.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYou're not going wriggle off the hook.
I can't explain why the heathen rages but I do know that Muslims are willing to kill for their religion.
You state that Muslims are compelled to kill their children (in reference to honour killing I assume) by their religion but are unable to account for the fact that Muslims carry out this archaic practice in some parts of the world but do not in others. Are you comfortable with spouting patent untruths?
By the way--you know that Christianity does not condone murder--so what's with the Palestinian who killed his daughter for going out with a Muslim?
Originally posted by Jake EllisonYou fool: They weren't fighting because they're Catholic and Protestant; they were fighting because they're Irish!
What about Catholics v.s Protestants in northen Ireland? Plenty of fighting and bombs there last century. Wasn't just paramilitary groups fighting each other either. Some IRA members killed a man with no association to an organisation just because he was a Protestant. Fairly brutal murder too. This happened on at least one incidence but I think it was s ...[text shortened]... a small point, Islam is around the same age that Christianity was at the time of the crusades.
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageYou sure love to twist things don't you. Where do you find anything saying that Christians condoned that murder? Where?
You're not going wriggle off the hook.
You state that Muslims are compelled to kill their children (in reference to honour killing I assume) by their religion but are unable to account for the fact that Muslims carry out this archaic practice in some parts of the world but do not in others. Are you comfortable with spouting patent untruths?
By ...[text shortened]... ne murder--so what's with the Palestinian who killed his daughter for going out with a Muslim?
From your article that you posted and I quote"Faten Habash's murder was unusual because she came from the Christian minority in the Palestinian territories. Her desire to marry a young Muslim, Samer Hamis, so infuriated her family that the couple decided to elope to Jordan. "