How do know what’s true? Truth; debate

@Metal-Brain said
We all know people start most forest fires. Stop fooling yourself.

Here is a thought: Stop being a Trump propagandist.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
What do you think Covid 19 was designed for?

It also got used to manipulate an election.

It didn't come out of a lab, it came out of Asians drinking covid contaminated snake blood. but no amount of your Trump propagandist role will EVER believe that since it is your GOD Trump who started that BULLCRAP.

@Metal-Brain said
How could you possibly know? You have 2 contradictory reports that cannot both be true. How did you determine which one was true?

Suing to get money makes no sense? LOL!
You know better. That is the main reason people sue. The other is to restore their reputation after slanderous lies were told. You are suggesting Dominion didn't care about either. So why did they su ...[text shortened]... be liable for defamation? Of course not. Stop the double standard. That is flawed logic either way.

No I don't have 2 conflicting reports. One report makes the claim that there's a dragon in a garage and the real report says "I dunno why we were forced to look into this but we found no evidence of a dragon."

Claims and evidence are different things.

The truth is based on evidence, not "conflicting reports" or whatever. You also said we would not know for sure unless we got inside a computer. How would that work?

@sonhouse said
It didn't come out of a lab, it came out of Asians drinking covid contaminated snake blood. but no amount of your Trump propagandist role will EVER believe that since it is your GOD Trump who started that BULLCRAP.

LMFAO...oh my GOD

@sonhouse said
One way would be to remove about 5 billion people off the planet. There are just too many humans on Earth, overpopulated just a bit.

That would appear to be RFK Jr.'s plan: tell people vaccines are unsafe, tell them to take lots of vitamins instead, and wait a generation.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
LMFAO...oh my GOD

Like I said several times, you clearly NEVER think for yourself anymore, you gave up your brain and your soul to Trump a decade or more ago. I bet you even think Trump is the one hiring and firing on his stupid Apprentice show. His PRODUCERS told TRUMP who was hired and fired. A fake show from day one, just like his fake ride down the escalator which was filled with PAID ACTORS and BTW, they were paid just 50 bucks each. Desperate actors apparently. They probably PUKED afterwards having to debase themselves like that, pretending they were infatuated with Trump.

@moonbus said
That would appear to be RFK Jr.'s plan: tell people vaccines are unsafe, tell them to take lots of vitamins instead, and wait a generation.

The really sad part is it will LITERALLY take decades to even BEGIN to remove the damage Trump has caused our country, our national security now that we have depleted our stockpiles of those 30 million dollar missiles and China, Iran, Russia, they ALL are no doubt making plans like attacking Taiwan when they know full well Trump has already set up what he thinks is the new world order, China gets ALL they want like Taiwan, Russia gets Europe, Trump gets South America, Central America, Greenland and now the invasion of Greenland has started, a Texas company just started by a Trump billionaire they call "Greenland Energy'' has shipped dozens of shipping containers full of drilling machinery and they claimed at first they had permission but Greenland says NO PERMISSION but they are planning many more vessels landing in north Greenland to dump even MORE drilling equipment. Meanwhile Greenland is FURIOUS and this story is not over by any stretch of the imagination. Trump is invading Greenland but not with military.

@sonhouse said
The really sad part is it will LITERALLY take decades to even BEGIN to remove the damage Trump has caused our country, our national security now that we have depleted our stockpiles of those 30 million dollar missiles and China, Iran, Russia, they ALL are no doubt making plans like attacking Taiwan when they know full well Trump has already set up what he thinks is the new w ...[text shortened]... ry is not over by any stretch of the imagination. Trump is invading Greenland but not with military.

China gets Africa too, and the BigThree squabble over mineral resources at the poles. I don’t like this New World Disorder at all. Too much like that board game from my childhood, Risk.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
LMFAO...oh my GOD

Why do you bother posting with nothing to contribute?

@wildgrass said
No I don't have 2 conflicting reports. One report makes the claim that there's a dragon in a garage and the real report says "I dunno why we were forced to look into this but we found no evidence of a dragon."

Claims and evidence are different things.

The truth is based on evidence, not "conflicting reports" or whatever. You also said we would not know for sure unless we got inside a computer. How would that work?

Stop lying and making up stupid comparisons. You have 2 conflicting reports and you have no idea which one is the truth. All you have is bias and faith, neither of which are evidence.

You are claiming you know what is true when you do not. In fact, I found a website that falsely claims Halderman did not find any evidence of fraud even though he clearly said there was in his report.

https://news.engin.umich.edu/2024/10/four-election-vulnerabilities-uncovered-by-a-michigan-engineer/

So your side lied about Halderman because Halderman never admitted he lied about anything or made any mistakes. And Dominion never sued him because you claim Dominion didn't want the money.

@sonhouse said
Here is a thought: Stop being a Trump propagandist.

There are more forest fires because there are more people on the planet. People start the vast majority of forest fires mostly because they are careless. Some are arsonists.

Nearly 85 percent* of wildland fires in the United States are caused by humans. Human-caused fires result from campfires left unattended, the burning of debris, equipment use and malfunctions, negligently discarded cigarettes, and intentional acts of arson.

Global warming causing forest fires makes no scientific sense. GW causes more rainfall, not less. You are the one being influenced by propaganda. They are trying to scare you into wanting a carbon tax.

https://www.nps.gov/articles/wildfire-causes-and-evaluation.htm

@Metal-Brain said
Stop lying and making up stupid comparisons. You have 2 conflicting reports and you have no idea which one is the truth. All you have is bias and faith, neither of which are evidence.

You are claiming you know what is true when you do not. In fact, I found a website that falsely claims Halderman did not find any evidence of fraud even though he clearly said there was ...[text shortened]... or made any mistakes. And Dominion never sued him because you claim Dominion didn't want the money.

What's the evidence in this report that convinces you that the election was stolen?

@wildgrass said
What's the evidence in this report that convinces you that the election was stolen?

Stop claiming I said the election was stolen. That is an entirely different subject. I posted the report for you. You need to read the report. Here it is again:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20423772-antrim-county-forensics-report/

"We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan."

@Metal-Brain said
Stop claiming I said the election was stolen. That is an entirely different subject. I posted the report for you. You need to read the report. Here it is again:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20423772-antrim-county-forensics-report/

"We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemi ...[text shortened]... ud. Based on our study, we conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan."

No that's not a different aubject. Votes are always miscounted at some level that is a given. Nothing can be perfect. If you don't think the election was stolen or rigged, which was the whole point of all the recounts and audits and forensic reports, then what point are you trying to make?

Every single time they tried to prove that the election was stolen, they came up with nothing.

@wildgrass said
No that's not a different aubject. Votes are always miscounted at some level that is a given. Nothing can be perfect. If you don't think the election was stolen or rigged, which was the whole point of all the recounts and audits and forensic reports, then what point are you trying to make?

Every single time they tried to prove that the election was stolen, they came up with nothing.

I don't know if the election was stolen, so it is not a worthy topic. This is about finding the truth and you claimed the truth was something you want to believe. How do you know Russell James Ramsland, Jr. lied?

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20423772-antrim-county-forensics-report/

And why didn't Dominion sue Russell James Ramsland, Jr.? If he lied it would be a slam dunk case of defamation. Dominion must have something to hide.

https://rumble.com/v7bv2pg-lindell-dominion-dropped-its-lawsuit-against-mypillow-after-more-than-five-.html?e9s=src_v1_s%2Csrc_v1_s_o&sci=be1b0a83-3b53-4aa5-bb43-53a2a0215774