Is Venezuela a democracy?

@Rajk999 said
Call them what you like ... socialist/communist .. whatever. They are all losers and all your buddies ..
- North Korea
- Cuba
- Venezuela

.. and a couple others. They are beggars and losers. All a bunch of stupid politicians stealing the country's resources while the rest of the people live in abject poverty.

ll a bunch of stupid politicians stealing the country's resources while the rest of the people live in abject poverty

Doesn't sound like socialism or communism. Like, if you plant an apple tree but an oak grows instead, you want to tell us that apple trees have no fruit only acorns?

@Rajk999 said
Call them what you like ... socialist/communist .. whatever. They are all losers and all your buddies ..
- North Korea
- Cuba
- Venezuela

.. and a couple others. They are beggars and losers. All a bunch of stupid politicians stealing the country's resources while the rest of the people live in abject poverty.

Those are socialist countries and what do you have against universal healthcare?

@Metal-Brain said
Those are socialist countries and what do you have against universal healthcare?

Many countries have universal health care ... fool. Why are you so blind that you are unable to see that from these countries come millions of refugees who risk their lives trying to escape these tyrannical rulers.

Something is wrong with these countries ... and you.

@wildgrass said

ll a bunch of stupid politicians stealing the country's resources while the rest of the people live in abject poverty

Doesn't sound like socialism or communism. Like, if you plant an apple tree but an oak grows instead, you want to tell us that apple trees have no fruit only acorns?

Stupid analogy. These are socialist countries.

@Rajk999 said
Stupid analogy. These are socialist countries.

Not by your own description.

@wildgrass said
Not by your own description.

I notice what you capitalist haters do. You choose some wildly successful capitalist countries and then start referring to them as socialist/socialism because they have welfare. That is deceitful.. Socialism is a failure as can be seen clearly by countries that practiced state control of resources. Worse, they are failures who cannot see that they are failing.

@Rajk999 said
Many countries have universal health care ... fool. Why are you so blind that you are unable to see that from these countries come millions of refugees who risk their lives trying to escape these tyrannical rulers.

Something is wrong with these countries ... and you.

Sanctions. That is why they are leaving. Sanctions hurt the poor so the poor leave. Most people there are happy with Maduro. They elected him.

@Rajk999 said
I notice what you capitalist haters do. You choose some wildly successful capitalist countries and then start referring to them as socialist/socialism because they have welfare. That is deceitful.. Socialism is a failure as can be seen clearly by countries that practiced state control of resources. Worse, they are failures who cannot see that they are failing.

I don't hate capitalism, but that's barely a thing anymore either. It's super simple and has nothing to do with ideology: If what you are describing doesn't fit the definition of the thing you are calling it, then you're using the wrong words.

@Metal-Brain said
Sanctions. That is why they are leaving. Sanctions hurt the poor so the poor leave. Most people there are happy with Maduro. They elected him.

Failure nevertheless. The weak blame the world.

@wildgrass said
I don't hate capitalism, but that's barely a thing anymore either. It's super simple and has nothing to do with ideology: If what you are describing doesn't fit the definition of the thing you are calling it, then you're using the wrong words.

I have seen your definitions and they are twisted.

@Rajk999 said
I have seen your definitions and they are twisted.

Example?

@wildgrass said
Example?

I said it already ...

**********************
I notice what you capitalist haters do. You choose some wildly successful capitalist countries and then start referring to them as socialist/socialism because they have welfare. That is deceitful.. Socialism is a failure as can be seen clearly by countries that practiced state control of resources. Worse, they are failures who cannot see that they are failing.
************************************

@Rajk999 said
I said it already ...

**********************
I notice what you capitalist haters do. You choose some wildly successful capitalist countries and then start referring to them as socialist/socialism because they have welfare. That is deceitful.. Socialism is a failure as can be seen clearly by countries that practiced state control of resources. Worse, they are failures who cannot see that they are failing.
************************************

I didn't call it a socialist country. But certainly when you take $800 billion of government money and give it to big business you cannot call that capitalism either. Companies which are too big to fail should not exist in a capitalist system. Individuals with a yearly wealth accumulation at 10,000x the poverty line is not possible in a capitalist system.

Failed socialism isn't socialism. Just as failed capitalism isn't capitalism.

@wildgrass said
I didn't call it a socialist country. But certainly when you take $800 billion of government money and give it to big business you cannot call that capitalism either. Companies which are too big to fail should not exist in a capitalist system. Individuals with a yearly wealth accumulation at 10,000x the poverty line is not possible in a capitalist system.

Failed socialism isn't socialism. Just as failed capitalism isn't capitalism.

There is no such thing as failed capitalism

@Rajk999 said
There is no such thing as failed capitalism

In America we've been pretending to be capitalists for quite some time. If the path to getting rich must go through government, it isn't accurate to call it a free market.

No one can compete with Amazon in the USA because it's been rigged in their favor.