Looking at ICE

@AThousandYoung said
The reason we were getting overwhelmed with illegal immigrants was lack of judges to legally prosecute them not a lack of government men with guns to capture them and Trump keeps firing the judges.

explain how Trump stopped it then genious

@KellyJay said
Would that gear be necessary if the police were walking side by side, getting the worst of the worst, instead of fearing that they will be run over by a car, shot, or have something thrown at them without local support?

How come real police who deal with actual criminals every day, don't feel the need to resort to such measures?

@KellyJay said
Well, they need support. Instead of crying, they are not doing enough to do the job. Give support so they can do the job without distractions.

If ICE can't do their job, and instead spend their time terrorizing citizens and breaking the law, then give the money to the people who can do the job.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
explain how Trump stopped it then genious

The same way they got here. Illegally.

@KellyJay said
Enforcement is not breaking the law. If there are complaints, why aren't the authorities assigning local enforcement to help ensure that doesn’t happen? Repeating a charge does not prove anything.

“Local enforcement” are not qualified to act as immigration judges.

@AThousandYoung said
“Local enforcement” are not qualified to act as immigration judges.

No one is asking them to be judges, nor is anyone asking you to be either, as you pass judgments on what they are doing with rumors, innuendos, and second and third-hand information as your sources of information. However, what they are more than qualified to do is help capture murderers, rapest, human traffickers; they have those types of jurisdiction authorities.

@AThousandYoung said
The same way they got here. Illegally.

Explain, or is that just a cheap, no-proof answer to something you cannot back up?

@no1marauder said
How come real police who deal with actual criminals every day, don't feel the need to resort to such measures?

Those guys get accused of things all the time! Holding someone accountable is the only thing those guys should be doing! If the local authorities want to stop the things they are complaining about, why don’t they want the police with them to make sure what is supposed to happen does and nothing else?

I personally think they care more about the talking points than about the lives lost, or they would be doing all they could to help ensure such things do not happen.

@KellyJay said
No one is asking them to be judges, nor is anyone asking you to be either, as you pass judgments on what they are doing with rumors, innuendos, and second and third-hand information as your sources of information. However, what they are more than qualified to do is help capture murderers, rapest, human traffickers; they have those types of jurisdiction authorities.

You need judges to make it legal. The fifth amendment guarantees all people due process.

@KellyJay said
Those guys get accused of things all the time! Holding someone accountable is the only thing those guys should be doing! If the local authorities want to stop the things they are complaining about, why don’t they want the police with them to make sure what is supposed to happen does and nothing else?

I personally think they care more about the talking points than about the lives lost, or they would be doing all they could to help ensure such things do not happen.

Its the way of the world.
Talkers v Doers.
Talkers mess things up, then the Doers have to come in a fix it.
Personally, Im with the Doers.

@KellyJay said
Those guys get accused of things all the time! Holding someone accountable is the only thing those guys should be doing! If the local authorities want to stop the things they are complaining about, why don’t they want the police with them to make sure what is supposed to happen does and nothing else?

I personally think they care more about the talking points than about the lives lost, or they would be doing all they could to help ensure such things do not happen.

Local police have actual crimes to deal with. Even at that, in my town they don't hide their faces, they wear name tags and they don't dress up in combat gear or carry assault rifles.

I agree with those cities and towns who's elected officials have decided not to make their law enforcement agents adjuncts to immigration officers. That's in line with the "anti-commandering" principal laid down by right wing hero Antonin Scalia almost three decades ago.https://www.oyez.org/cases/1996/95-1478

@no1marauder said
Federal agents in combat gear, masks and carrying assault rifles barging into Targets, Home Depots, county fairs, schools, churches, residential neighborhoods etc. is your idea of "protecting" people?

Considering a substantial majority of the people they arrest are presently doing nothing worse than working.and raising families that assertion is nonsensical propaganda.

"Considering a substantial majority of the people they arrest are presently doing nothing worse than working.and raising families that assertion is nonsensical propaganda."

WOAHHH...I guess you can prove this? or are you lying again?

@Mott-The-Hoople said
"Considering a substantial majority of the people they arrest are presently doing nothing worse than working.and raising families that assertion is nonsensical propaganda."

WOAHHH...I guess you can prove this? or are you lying again?

Easy:

"The latest ICE statistics show that as of June 29, there were 57,861 people detained by ICE, 41,495 — 71.7% — of whom had no criminal convictions. That includes 14,318 people with pending criminal charges and 27,177 who are subject to immigration enforcement, but have no known criminal convictions or pending criminal charges."

"Nonpublic data obtained by the Cato Institute shows that as of June 14, 65% of the more than 204,000 people processed into the system by ICE since the start of fiscal year 2025, which began Oct. 1, 2024, had no criminal convictions. Of those with convictions, only 6.9% had committed a violent crime, while 53% had committed nonviolent crimes that fell into three main categories — immigration, traffic, or vice crimes."

https://fortune.com/2025/07/12/ice-raids-trump-immigration-crackdown-deportation-no-criminal-convictions/

EDIT: Some more recent data:

"Of people booked into ICE custody this fiscal year (since October 1, 2025):

Nearly three in four (73 percent) had no criminal conviction.
Nearly half had no criminal conviction nor even any pending criminal charges.
Only 8 percent had a violent or property criminal conviction.
Only 5 percent had a violent criminal conviction.
A majority of criminal convicts had vice, immigration, or traffic convictions."

"Since October 1, only 8 percent of detained persons had either a violent or property crime. As many people were detained with an immigration conviction (e.g., illegal entry/​reentry) as violent convicts."

https://www.cato.org/blog/5-ice-detainees-have-violent-convictions-73-no-convictions

@Mott-The-Hoople said
"Considering a substantial majority of the people they arrest are presently doing nothing worse than working.and raising families that assertion is nonsensical propaganda."

WOAHHH...I guess you can prove this? or are you lying again?

Dude. It's common knowledge, the statistics are published.

@AThousandYoung said
You need judges to make it legal. The fifth amendment guarantees all people due process.

no you dont