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@no1marauder said
"Emergency for years" is a contradiction in terms.

You know better; Congress never ceded to the President the power to indefinitely nullify immigration law just because Fox News says there's an "Emergency".
It can take a long time for a ship to sink, but that hole in the hull is an emergency the whole time.

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@Sleepyguy said
It can take a long time for a ship to sink, but that hole in the hull is an emergency the whole time.
No, it isn't. It's a "problem" and the ones the Constitution gives the power to fix immigration "problems" is the Congress, not the President by Royal Decree.

The conservatives on the SCOTUS wouldn't even let President Biden address an actual emergency i.e. the COVID epidemic by imposing a limited vaccine mandate even the relevant law gave the Executive broad powers in case of national epidemics. Why should this President be permitted unchecked power to deal with a faux "emergency"?


@no1marauder said
No, it isn't. It's a "problem" and the ones the Constitution gives the power to fix immigration "problems" is the Congress, not the President by Royal Decree.
Yes it is, and the Uniparty in DC is too corrupt to leave it to.

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@Sleepyguy said
Yes it is, and the Uniparty in DC is too corrupt to leave it to.
They were going to deal with it just not in a way right wing fanatics like yourself wanted as other posters have pointed out.

Unhappiness with Congressional proposals does not increase Presidential power.


@no1marauder said
They were going to deal with it just not in a way right wing fanatics like yourself wanted as other posters have pointed out.

Unhappiness with Congressional proposals does not increase Presidential power.
Stopping illegal immigrants from the entering the US is not fanatical.


@Sleepyguy said
Stopping illegal immigrants from the entering the US is not fanatical.
A willingness to accept illegal and unconstitutional means to do so is.


@PuzZuLz said
Maybe true but the reality is the democrats are much worse.

All y'all had to do was be center and y'all would have won.

You lost because of...
Anti White
Anti American
Gender Delusional WTF??
Open Border/Lax policies
You're a twit and a liar.

It was your fascistic ideas and your desire to win at all costs, to lie, lie and lie some more. You didn't recognize the danger to your selves from kneeling at Trump's feet.

Now, y'all are gonna pay by getting kicked out of government.


@PuzZuLz said
When you call out racism from non whites, then you can preach.

Until then, shut up you race traitor clown. 🤡
Calling out the authoritarians doesn't mean they are not guilty and is not racism, fool.

Damn, you guys are slow. All to promote your racism so y'all can stay atop the dung heap a little while longer.


Even during the Holocaust, there were Germans who knew their government was doing the wrong thing and worked with the resistance to bring it down. This is exactly like that. Would you actually claim that Jewish resistance against the Nazis was racism? What a dumbass.


@Suzianne said
You're a twit and a liar.

It was your fascistic ideas and your desire to win at all costs, to lie, lie and lie some more. You didn't recognize the danger to your selves from kneeling at Trump's feet.

Now, y'all are gonna pay by getting kicked out of government.
Still bitter y'all lost huh?

If the Repubs ran women candidates first, you'd be a Republican.


@Suzianne said
You're a twit and a liar.

It was your fascistic ideas and your desire to win at all costs, to lie, lie and lie some more. You didn't recognize the danger to your selves from kneeling at Trump's feet.

Now, y'all are gonna pay by getting kicked out of government.
😂

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@no1marauder said
A willingness to accept illegal and unconstitutional means to do so is.
So the corrupt DC cabal can fund NGO's with taxpayer dollars to create a giant infrastructure to funnel illegal immigrants into the US, and that's not extreme. But a President who promised to put a stop to it, and was elected to do just that, finally does, and you have a problem with his methodology. The corrupt forces in DC do not adhere norms, so I'm not going to worry about them either.


@Sleepyguy said
So the corrupt DC cabal can fund NGO's with taxpayer dollars to create a giant infrastructure to funnel illegal immigrants into the US, and that's not extreme. But a President who promised to put a stop to it, and was elected to do just that, finally does, and you have a problem with his methodology. The corrupt forces in DC do not adhere norms, so I'm not going to worry about them either.
They’re corrupt because you don’t like what they do and that justifies abandoning rule of law?

Wajoma used to repeat the “no force or fraud, guvamint is bad” meme until his political allies elected a fraud who uses government force whenever he can.

Now you defend a corrupt criminal regime and talk about how you’re somehow defeating crime and corruption by doing so.

You seem to be intellectually honest most of the time. How do you reconcile this?


@Sleepyguy said
So the corrupt DC cabal can fund NGO's with taxpayer dollars to create a giant infrastructure to funnel illegal immigrants into the US, and that's not extreme. But a President who promised to put a stop to it, and was elected to do just that, finally does, and you have a problem with his methodology. The corrupt forces in DC do not adhere norms, so I'm not going to worry about them either.
If they broke the law then the solution is to convict them of their crimes not to rally behind a criminal yourself.


@Sleepyguy said
So the corrupt DC cabal can fund NGO's with taxpayer dollars to create a giant infrastructure to funnel illegal immigrants into the US, and that's not extreme. But a President who promised to put a stop to it, and was elected to do just that, finally does, and you have a problem with his methodology. The corrupt forces in DC do not adhere norms, so I'm not going to worry about them either.
So a strongman unhindered by niceties like the law and the Constitution is your answer?

I think it's been done before with less than optimal results.


@Sleepyguy said
So the corrupt DC cabal can fund NGO's with taxpayer dollars to create a giant infrastructure to funnel illegal immigrants into the US, and that's not extreme. But a President who promised to put a stop to it, and was elected to do just that, finally does, and you have a problem with his methodology. The corrupt forces in DC do not adhere norms, so I'm not going to worry about them either.
Are you proposing we scrap the constitution, then?

Or is it only in force when it happens to facilitate the achievement of Republican policies?