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Mandates, taking our freedom, are on the way.

Mandates, taking our freedom, are on the way.

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@no1marauder said
No such mandate exists as you well know.

Are you complaining about private companies enacting vaccine requirements for their employees?
No such mandate existed. Yes, I knew that.

Glad you were willing to admit it.


@eladar said
Give me one example of your socialist all encompassing national US policy that predates WW1.
Wear pants.


@wildgrass said
Wear pants.
Lol, ok go play in the sandbox with your intellectually inferior equals.


@eladar said
No such mandate existed. Yes, I knew that.

Glad you were willing to admit it.
You didn't answer my question.

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@no1marauder said
You didn't answer my question.
No, I am not complaining about private companies. They are easy enough to have reject.

Freedom embracing people need to boycott these companies. If they do not, then they get what they deserve.

Amazon wants to pit in place a vaccine mandate, but also need a workforce.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/amazons-fear-of-losing-workers-could-prevent-a-vaccine-mandate/


@no1marauder said
Government restrictions on the People to stop the spread of epidemics was accepted practice in the Colonies and after the establishment of the United States.https://www.lawfareblog.com/long-history-coercive-health-responses-american-law
Help!
Do you know what is going on? Tell us what Genghis Khan did


@no1marauder said
You didn't answer my question.
You never answer mine


@vivify said
The U.S. government can't force anyone to get vaccinated, that's just fear mongering.

All the government can do is place rules on government employees who want to continue working in their positions.
In Australia they are encouraging companies and small businesses to not to business with un-vaccinated. They will not force you to have it but will try and stop you working or getting government benefits. thats the way they are going/talking. If that is not force then I don't know what is.
You may not be able to travel, even interstate, go to a restaurant or nothing.


@jimmac said
In Australia they are encouraging companies and small businesses to not to business with un-vaccinated. They will not force you to have it but will try and stop you working or getting government benefits. thats the way they are going/talking. If that is not force then I don't know what is.
You may not be able to travel, even interstate, go to a restaurant or nothing.
I am glad Australians live in such a free country! Soldiers in the streets enforcing lockdown and making sure those who do not get vaccinated have no right to freedom.

To tell you the truth, it sounds like Australia is being governed by Beijing.


@eladar said
Lol, ok go play in the sandbox with your intellectually inferior equals.
I'm rubber you're glue.

Are you at the big kids table arguing that the only free society has no rules?

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@eladar said
Really? You mean there have been mandates that you must be vaccinated to hold down a job anywhere in the entire country?
Many of those mandates are being driven by the private sector.

I am fully vaccinated and if I have to wear a mask at a gathering because someone else at that gathering has refused to be vaccinated, I would have a right to be pissed off.
And I won't need help from a government in that regard.

And in the US, the anti-vaccination is being driven by politics.
Many just don't want to hand the Biden administration a political victory in defeating COVID.

Where is the outrage when people have to go outside to have a smoke ?
Or when people have to take off their shoes at airports (20 years on) ?
Where are the cries of freedom and liberty here ??


@mghrn55 said
Many of those mandates are being driven by the private sector.

I am fully vaccinated and if I have to wear a mask at a gathering because someone else at that gathering has refused to be vaccinated, I would have a right to be pissed off.
And I won't need help from a government in that regard.

And in the US, the anti-vaccination is being driven by politics.
Many just do ...[text shortened]... take off their shoes at airports (20 years on) ?
Where are the cries of freedom and liberty here ??
One could argue that the failed "shoe bomber" terrorist attempt was more effective than 9/11 because it forced a billion people to waste their time at airports, untying and retying their shoes, for 20 years.

Freedom.


@wildgrass said
One could argue that the failed "shoe bomber" terrorist attempt was more effective than 9/11 because it forced a billion people to waste their time at airports, untying and retying their shoes, for 20 years.

Freedom.
Nobody's complaining.
I'm already expecting accusations of diluting the scope of the topic any time now.


@mghrn55 said
Many of those mandates are being driven by the private sector.

I am fully vaccinated and if I have to wear a mask at a gathering because someone else at that gathering has refused to be vaccinated, I would have a right to be pissed off.
And I won't need help from a government in that regard.

And in the US, the anti-vaccination is being driven by politics.
Many just do ...[text shortened]... take off their shoes at airports (20 years on) ?
Where are the cries of freedom and liberty here ??
So just being alive is the same thing as pouring carcinogen into the air. Got it.


@eladar said
So just being alive is the same thing as pouring carcinogen into the air. Got it.
Your post makes absolutely no sense.
I'll put a simple question to you.

Why aren't you complaining about a loss of freedom when you have to remove your shoes before boarding a plane ?
Not complicated. Respond to the question.