@mghrn55 saidAnswer: people who smoke near other people knowingly releasing deadly carcinogens into their nose.. that is assault and battery. Crime. Whew.
Many of those mandates are being driven by the private sector.
I am fully vaccinated and if I have to wear a mask at a gathering because someone else at that gathering has refused to be vaccinated, I would have a right to be pissed off.
And I won't need help from a government in that regard.
And in the US, the anti-vaccination is being driven by politics.
Many just do ...[text shortened]... take off their shoes at airports (20 years on) ?
Where are the cries of freedom and liberty here ??
Answer: a private business (delta) can tell anyone in the confines of their business to follow the rules of the business. Whew. Is that you, Handy Andy?
Yes, I do cry for liberty and freedom. Also that people who commit crime are thrown in jail, also, that govt not overeregulate businesses.
@vivify saidNobody can force someone to have sex with them either. They don't have to continue working in their positions either. They have the choice to quit.
The U.S. government can't force anyone to get vaccinated, that's just fear mongering.
All the government can do is place rules on government employees who want to continue working in their positions.
Tell that to all the women who were sexually harassed at work by their boss.
@wildgrass saidThe gene vaccines are NOT vaccines.
Are we pretending that vaccinations weren't already required for participation in various things in our society? e.g. school, athletics, international travel.
They do not stop the spread of the virus.
@averagejoe1 saidNot a crime.
Answer: people who smoke near other people knowingly releasing deadly carcinogens into their nose.. that is assault and battery. Crime. Whew.
Answer: a private business (delta) can tell anyone in the confines of their business to follow the rules of the business. Whew. Is that you, Handy Andy?
Yes, I do cry for liberty and freedom. Also that people who commit crime are thrown in jail, also, that govt not overeregulate businesses.
A business, workplace or restaurant, can ask their employees to take their smoke breaks outside.
After all, a person does have the freedom and liberty to breath air without inhaling smoke from someone smoking next to them.
Or don't you recognize freedom from that angle ?
@metal-brain saidVaccines don't stop the infections.
The gene vaccines are NOT vaccines.
They do not stop the spread of the virus.
They stop an infected person from getting sick, ending up in a hospital or dying.
If you want to yap about a person's freedom to not wear a mask, then talk about my freedom.
I am fully vaccinated. Yet I have to now wear a mask in a public place because I might infect some dumb ass who won't get vaccinated because they want their freedom.
I just call that trailer park stupid.
@mghrn55 saidMy post makes no sense?
Your post makes absolutely no sense.
I'll put a simple question to you.
Why aren't you complaining about a loss of freedom when you have to remove your shoes before boarding a plane ?
Not complicated. Respond to the question.
Smoking releases carcinogen. This is why smoking is banned.
Being an unvaxxed individual releases no carcinogens, therefore should not be banned.
@mghrn55 saidAccording to the CDC, over 1500 people who were vaccinated have died from Covid.
Not a crime.
A business, workplace or restaurant, can ask their employees to take their smoke breaks outside.
After all, a person does have the freedom and liberty to breath air without inhaling smoke from someone smoking next to them.
Or don't you recognize freedom from that angle ?
@metal-brain saidThanks for highlighting the concept of choice!! A most impt concept. Ine of the first things to go under Socialism. (Socialists may still have it, however. Just not people living under socialism. They wont have anything to ‘choose’ about.)
Nobody can force someone to have sex with them either. They don't have to continue working in their positions either. They have the choice to quit.
Tell that to all the women who were sexually harassed at work by their boss.
@mghrn55 saidFirst para is correct, except business can MAKE employees smoke ouside.
Not a crime.
A business, workplace or restaurant, can ask their employees to take their smoke breaks outside.
After all, a person does have the freedom and liberty to breath air without inhaling smoke from someone smoking next to them.
Or don't you recognize freedom from that angle ?
Your second para is simply the same as saying that i have the freedom to not be slugged in the face by someone’s fist.
@mghrn55 saidNow you are making up lame excuses. Those that choose not to vaccinate know the risks. They are not asking anything from you. You need to question those telling you to wear a mask. There is no logical reason for it except to scare people.
Vaccines don't stop the infections.
They stop an infected person from getting sick, ending up in a hospital or dying.
If you want to yap about a person's freedom to not wear a mask, then talk about my freedom.
I am fully vaccinated. Yet I have to now wear a mask in a public place because I might infect some dumb ass who won't get vaccinated because they want their freedom.
I just call that trailer park stupid.
That is the real reason they want you to mask up. To create fear. No other reason.
@metal-brain saidThose that chose not to vaccinate know the risks ?
Now you are making up lame excuses. Those that choose not to vaccinate know the risks. They are not asking anything from you. You need to question those telling you to wear a mask. There is no logical reason for it except to scare people.
That is the real reason they want you to mask up. To create fear. No other reason.
Really ?? Really ??
@metal-brain saidExcuses ?? Lame excuses ??
Now you are making up lame excuses. Those that choose not to vaccinate know the risks. They are not asking anything from you. You need to question those telling you to wear a mask. There is no logical reason for it except to scare people.
That is the real reason they want you to mask up. To create fear. No other reason.
What am I making an excuse for ??
For getting vaccinated ?
I would think I'd have to make an excuse for not getting vaccinated.
People who have gotten vaccinated are generally upset at those who haven't gotten vaccinated.
Who should be making the excuses here ?
