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Originally posted by NemesioYes - which means just that one will behave in a manner one normally wouldn't. Not that one secretly harbours the thoughts that one expresses when drunk. Otherwise courts would be getting witnesses drunk before examination!
I disagree with you that a person will say anything under the influence of alcohol. You are certainly aware that alcohol disables inhibitions and filters.
This barrage of antisemetic attacks [i]should raise flags for the critical among us, and cause us to ask 'Was Mel Gibson being disingenuous?'[/i]
I find it strange that you berate the public fixation with celebrities in one post ("I don't dispute that his statements were despicable ... and
disgusting, but honestly, who cares?" ) and yet say that somehow the question of his disingenuity is a matter of importance for the critical thinkers of society in another.
Originally posted by lucifershammer"Otherwise courts would be getting witnesses drunk before examination!"
Yes - which means just that one will behave in a manner one normally wouldn't. Not that one secretly harbours the thoughts that one expresses when drunk. Otherwise courts would be getting witnesses drunk before examination!
This barrage of antisemetic attacks [i]should raise flags for the critical among us, and cause us to ask 'Was Mel Gibso ...[text shortened]... is disingenuity is a matter of importance for the critical thinkers of society in another.
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Originally posted by Red NightReally, I don't care what his antisemitic declarations were.
Gibson comes from a long line of anti-semites.
That is, if he were no traspassing the limits that the law impose to the "free speech" right (a patent oxymoron here). (I mean that if his declarations were libelous, he could be demanded for that... but only by the attacked person/s).
He should be punished by driving being drunk. That's all.
BTW. I think that "free speech" is only a convenience for the goverments to make us feel secure to emit our opinions without being punished. But as soon as they see something "inconvenient" in you doing that, you will be inmediatly censored.
What hipocresy!
- J
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Originally posted by CrazyLilTing*sarcastic mode on*
*sarcatic mode off*
Please retry posting when you get a valid point.
Beep!
You are absolutely right. We wouldn't want to pollute the high-quality debates on the RHP forums with a little levity, now would we? After all, most of the contributors are leading academics and politicians of international standing, and they are busy people!
*sarcastic mode off*
You're not god.
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Originally posted by dottewellOf course I am not.
*sarcastic mode on*
You are absolutely right. We wouldn't want to pollute the high-quality debates on the RHP forums with a little levity, now would we? After all, most of the contributors are leading academics and politicians of international standing, and they are busy people!
*sarcastic mode off*
You're not god.
That is your non-sarcastic point?
- J
P.S.: BTW, are you any better?
Originally posted by RingtailhunterBingo! Rec’d.
Peer pressure makes him apologize. I am speculating, but what he said drunk was probobly what he thinks sober. Have you ever know anyone who gets so drunk that they say what they don't think? Not me, not even once. I have met plenty of bigots that just get louder about it when drunk, it does not really change the way they think (drinking that is). ...[text shortened]... statements he made.
Always about the statement, not about being a bigot people are.
RTh
People often say things drunk that they would not say when they are sober. As Nemesio pointed out, alcohol has a tendency to break down our inhibitions.
Now, when he’s sober and reasonable, Mel may well repress some his anti-Jewish sentiments. He may find them despicable himself—which is why he might try to hide them even from himself, not admit them even to himself. After all, the first step in getting an alcoholic on the road to sobriety is getting him (or her) to admit to himself that he’s an alcoholic: it’s called “first step.” Mel may be well advised to do a first-step with regard to the anti-Jewish stuff as well as his alcoholism (ought to include it in fifth step as well).
Re The Passion: am aware of the controversy that was going on, but I did not see it so can’t comment on it at all.