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Open Border, or Not?

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@mott-the-hoople said
it is ongoing as we speak, are you blind? or just have access to cnn?
everyone knew a democrat president would send the illegals swarming up. It happened.

The situation at the border is well out of hand. and the dems know it. kids being abused, people being
stuffed into tents nowhere big enough for them all to fit, it's crazy. And Biden does not want to stop
the flow as it hits the Mexican-Guatemala border. What can I say?


@earl-of-trumps said
I have a perfect right to comment about Biden's performance at the border. He is the man in charge.

YOU... do not have the right to stalk and harass.
And I I have a perfect right to challenge the veracity of your comments. If you don’t want to have your opinions challenged then keep them to yourself.
If you really think your being stalked the flag it up.


@earl-of-trumps said
everyone knew a democrat president would send the illegals swarming up. It happened.

The situation at the border is well out of hand. and the dems know it. kids being abused, people being
stuffed into tents nowhere big enough for them all to fit, it's crazy. And Biden does not want to stop
the flow as it hits the Mexican-Guatemala border. What can I say?
So now Biden is south of the border shoving illegals through?
And I take it this is one of those protected BS opinions that you feel should go unchallenged.


@earl-of-trumps said
This is absolutely appalling and unacceptable, JOE BIDEN...

Migrant children held in mass shelters with little oversight
The Biden administration is holding tens of thousands of asylum-seeking children in an opaque network of some 200 facilities that The Associated Press has learned spans two dozen states and includes five shelters with more than 1,000 child ...[text shortened]... ump-immigration-health-coronavirus-pandemic-government-and-politics-3b4e480c9021e6a8e02313f4c73a497e
From the article:

"the amount of time children spend, on average, inside the system has dropped from four months last fall to less than a month this spring, according to the Department of Health and Human Services."

So it seems this administration is working to solve the problem.

Any suggestions on how they could do it better?


@kevcvs57 said
So now Biden is south of the border shoving illegals through?
And I take it this is one of those protected BS opinions that you feel should go unchallenged.
challenge it all you want.

READ THE MEDIA


@no1marauder said
From the article:

"the amount of time children spend, on average, inside the system has dropped from four months last fall to less than a month this spring, according to the Department of Health and Human Services."

So it seems this administration is working to solve the problem.

Any suggestions on how they could do it better?
Yes.
close the border to all who have not gotten inoculated and have the passport to prove it.


@philokalia said
Because we have tens of millions of illegals that have been living among us with impunity for decades, as well as tens of thousands that enter on a monthly basis..?

Obviously, some amount of enforcement of the laws does occur, but it is the case that the current administration is hostile to its enforcement.

But let's not pretend that Republicans are historica ...[text shortened]... ffort to preserve a national border, because they are not. The US political system is a joke.
I keep wondering why interior immigration enforcement went down so dramatically under the Trump administration. I don't see any other explanation except that he was preserving the key Republican farmer voter by not deporting their illegal employees.

We know where they live and work. And we had a president who pretended to care about enforcement but took it in the opposite direction. At least Biden is honest about it.


@earl-of-trumps said
Yes.
close the border to all who have not gotten inoculated and have the passport to prove it.
How?


@wildgrass said
I keep wondering why interior immigration enforcement went down so dramatically under the Trump administration. I don't see any other explanation except that he was preserving the key Republican farmer voter by not deporting their illegal employees.

We know where they live and work. And we had a president who pretended to care about enforcement but took it in the opposite direction. At least Biden is honest about it.
Whatever. But Biden is honest about it? I think I will gamble our savings away in Vegas, I’ll tell my wife, she will hug me and say ‘Well, at least you were honest about it!
The Forum needs more silly emojis.


@averagejoe1 said
Whatever. But Biden is honest about it? I think I will gamble our savings away in Vegas, I’ll tell my wife, she will hug me and say ‘Well, at least you were honest about it!
The Forum needs more silly emojis.
Yeah It'd be worse if you told her you made a fortune even though you gambled away the mortgage payments.

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@wildgrass said
I keep wondering why interior immigration enforcement went down so dramatically under the Trump administration. I don't see any other explanation except that he was preserving the key Republican farmer voter by not deporting their illegal employees.

We know where they live and work. And we had a president who pretended to care about enforcement but took it in the opposite direction. At least Biden is honest about it.
Exactly the hypocritical arm of the Republican movement has been feeding cheap labour into the US market whilst screaming blue murder, and getting political mileage out of, ‘all them immigrants’ for decades.
They want them in the US without the kind of citizenship rights that would make them less vulnerable to exploitation by their donors and supporters.

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@wildgrass said
I keep wondering why interior immigration enforcement went down so dramatically under the Trump administration. I don't see any other explanation except that he was preserving the key Republican farmer voter by not deporting their illegal employees.

We know where they live and work. And we had a president who pretended to care about enforcement but took it in the opposite direction. At least Biden is honest about it.
It didnt go down, that is your error.

Your media choices are putting out propaganda. Go to the source.

https://www.govexec.com/management/2019/07/how-ice-enforcement-has-changed-under-trump-administration/158766/

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@kevcvs57 said
Exactly the hypocritical arm of the Republican movement has been feeding cheap labour into the US market whilst screaming blue murder, and getting political mileage out of, ‘all them immigrants’ for decades.
They want them in the US without the kind of citizenship rights that would make them less vulnerable to exploitation by their donors and supporters.
Certainly their friends have told them about the horrible treatment here.
This begs the question....why do they still choose to migrare here? (libs hate the word choose)

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@athousandyoung said
How?
What do you mean, how?
Right now they can get in claiming refugee status. They are processed and told to show up for
a court hearing, and of course, the illegal disappears. What I am saying is, if they have no vaccine passport, do not allow this process.

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@averagejoe1 said
Certainly their friends have told them about the horrible treatment here.
This begs the question....why do they still choose to migrare here? (libs hate the word choose)
Yes. With all the BAD evil things that happen to illegals here, they still come up in droves.

strange, that, eh?