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@sh76 saidThe numbers in your article are either a very low undercount by the Florida Hospital Association or it's counting only those hospitalized with the Omnicron variant. According to HHS on December 30th in Florida:
Florida doesn't exist in a vacuum. There are hundreds of flights a day between the northeast and Florida.
Anyway, Omicron is much more infectious than Delta and Omicron is probably likely causing the Florida uptick. That Florida hospitalizations are still low (https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/florida-covid-19-cases-rise-hospitalizations-remain-lo ...[text shortened]... /77-1a197f27-4027-4216-91ec-9b62b138a663) is further indication that it's Omicron rather than Delta.
"10.15% of inpatients have COVID-19.
This number is based on 257 hospitals reporting 4,433 patients receiving inpatient care for COVID-19 and 43,678 total inpatients."
https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization
In your link: "The association reports 2,075 people are hospitalized with COVID-19 ..............."
Both can't be right.
@sh76 saidI'm confused. When it was Delta, you said Florida and Texas were the only states with excess infections and deaths because a seasonal summer spike and downplayed the effective policies of some states in mitigating the spread.
It is, though new variants coming on the scene obviously can have impacts. The thing started in March. Obviously, March isn't the biggest month of the year for respiratory viruses but that's when it started so that's when it hit.
Endemic respiratory viruses peak in December. It's always been that way. People can speculate on why until the cows come home (and they tend to), bu ...[text shortened]... f daylight (which also drives people indoors even when it is warm out) have something to do with it.
Now that it's omicron in December, you're saying the seasonal effects are why Florida is #4 in the country for new omicron infections.
Any reason why death rates seem to correlate with public attitudes towards masks and distancing? Somehow here where I live the use of a mask is tyranny. Makes no sense.
@wildgrass saidNo time to look anything up right now but no way FL is 4th in overall infections this winter. Possibly in the past x days since it started at a very low level.
I'm confused. When it was Delta, you said Florida and Texas were the only states with excess infections and deaths because a seasonal summer spike and downplayed the effective policies of some states in mitigating the spread.
Now that it's omicron in December, you're saying the seasonal effects are why Florida is #4 in the country for new omicron infections.
Any reaso ...[text shortened]... owards masks and distancing? Somehow here where I live the use of a mask is tyranny. Makes no sense.
Anyway 4 is not so bad considering that in population it’s number 3. Raw numbers mean nothing. Per capita is the only number you should cite.
Anyway it was the whole south that spiked in the summer not just FL and TX. I never said anything differently.
@sh76 saidFlorida is 4th in infections per thousand right now. The south spiked last summer because they forced people to take masks off and abandoned common sense distancing. Now the south is spiking again. Seasonally???
No time to look anything up right now but no way FL is 4th in overall infections this winter. Possibly in the past x days since it started at a very low level.
Anyway 4 is not so bad considering that in population it’s number 3. Raw numbers mean nothing. Per capita is the only number you should cite.
Anyway it was the whole south that spiked in the summer not just FL and TX. I never said anything differently.
@wildgrass saidOklahoma never had a mask mandate, no spike.
Florida is 4th in infections per thousand right now. The south spiked last summer because they forced people to take masks off and abandoned common sense distancing. Now the south is spiking again. Seasonally???
@wildgrass saidGetting sick with viruses especially during the winter months has always bern part of the human experience.
Sooo, not seasonal or..?
Get over it.
@eladar saidNot true. Oklahoma has had spikes; in fact it's got the 12th highest rate of COVID deaths per 1 million population. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
Oklahoma never had a mask mandate, no spike.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/oklahoma/
It has the 22nd highest rate of confirmed cases but that's misleading; the State's testing rate is 48th in the nation.
@metal-brain saidComplete and utter retard.
Masks do more harm that good. That is why.
Mask mandates have 2 purposes.
1. Increasing fear which helps sell gene vaccines
2. Increasing the spread which increases fear which helps sell gene vaccines
@shavixmir saidJerome Adams is a retard?
Complete and utter retard.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus
This is what he said:
“What the World Health Organization [WHO] and the CDC [The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] have reaffirmed in the last few days is that they do not recommend the general public wear masks.”
He then explained the reasons why.
“On an individual level, there was a study in 2015 looking at medical students and medical students wearing surgical masks touch their face on average 23 times,” Adams explained. “We know a major way that you can get respiratory diseases like coronavirus is by touching a surface and then touching your face so wearing a mask improperly can actually increase your risk of getting disease.”
Adams went on to say that wearing a face mask “can also give you a false sense of security." He added that "you see many of these pictures with people out and about closer than six feet to each other, but still wearing a mask.”
It was our top government health officials that said masks do more harm than good. Can you prove the statements above by Adams are not correct? All you know is that he changed his mind, not that the reasons he gave were wrong the first time.
Where is the scientific study that proves the scientific study wrong that he based his assertion that face masks do more harm than good? The science didn't change. He just lied the second time and provided no study to back it up.
@no1marauder saidOf course it has had spikes, every state has, but no summer spike.
Not true. Oklahoma has had spikes; in fact it's got the 12th highest rate of COVID deaths per 1 million population. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/oklahoma/
It has the 22nd highest rate of confirmed cases but that's misleading; the State's testing rate is 48th in the nation.
Only an idiot would claim that no state has had a spike. But hey, look who I am responding to.
@metal-brain saidYou know perfectly well Adams admitted he was wrong on this about a year and a half ago. https://www.clickondetroit.com/health/2020/07/03/us-surgeon-general-explains-why-hes-dramatically-changed-his-position-on-wearing-masks/
Jerome Adams is a retard?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus
This is what he said:
“What the World Health Organization [WHO] and the CDC [The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] have reaffirmed in the last few days is that they do not recommend the general public wear masks.”
He then explained the reasons wh ...[text shortened]... n good? The science didn't change. He just lied the second time and provided no study to back it up.
Why do you keep spreading this BS when you know it is misinformation?