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PSA: Omicron

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@no1marauder said
On an average day, 200 more children are hospitalized for COVID in the US.https://abc7ny.com/covid-in-kids-vaccine-omicron-variant-children-with/11393287/

There's still more than a 1000 deaths per day being reported from COVID in the US.

Stop pretending this disease is some minor annoyance.
The deaths reported are with covid, not from covid, there’s a massive difference.

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@trev33 said
The deaths reported are with covid, not from covid, there’s a massive difference.
https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-it-s-complicated

An elderly man entered Hospital Midtown last month so stricken with advanced cancer that it could take his life within months — but that’s not what brought him to the emergency room.

The man had contracted COVID-19 and was struggling to breathe, recalls Sara Auld, MD, a critical care physician at the hospital. He was admitted to the intensive care unit (ICU) and intubated. “Given his already fragile state, his condition quickly took a turn for the worse” and he died, she recalls.

Was his death caused by COVID-19?

Yes, Auld says: “While he was very weak and frail from his underlying cancer, his death was undoubtedly accelerated and precipitated by COVID-19.”

Such decisions, made every day by doctors in hospitals around the country, are the unseen yet predominant sources for the nation’s most watched and scrutinized health statistic: people who have died from COVID-19.

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@no1marauder said
On an average day, 200 more children are hospitalized for COVID in the US.https://abc7ny.com/covid-in-kids-vaccine-omicron-variant-children-with/11393287/

There's still more than a 1000 deaths per day being reported from COVID in the US.

Stop pretending this disease is some minor annoyance.
Omicron spreads much faster (greater raw numbers) and probably is statistically harder on the unvaxxed than the flu. But for vaccinated people, on a per capita basis, Omicron is a minor annoyance (in 99+% of cases, anyway... there's always the exception).

Asymptomatic triple-vaccinated people should not be crashing emergency rooms because the swab they bought on Amazon comes up positive when they tested before going to Aunt Millie's Christmas party. That they are is a function of media sensationalism.


@trev33 said
The deaths reported are with covid, not from covid, there’s a massive difference.
I debunked this nonsense in another thread. Maybe I'll look it up later and post it again.

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/27/health/covid-kids-hospitals/index.html

Ooooohhh... scary headline.

New Omicron variant fills up children's hospitals

Then the article:

Milder infections for some kids, but not all

Children seem to be only mildly ill, for the most part, in New Jersey, said Dr. Jennifer Owensby of the pediatric critical care division at Rutgers Robert Wood Johnson Medical School.

"We are definitely seeing an increase in Covid-positive children, but they are not necessarily coming in with Covid symptoms," Owensby said. The kids are coming in for some other treatment, she said, and are testing positive when they are screened.

That same effect is driving up case counts in Washington, DC, said Dr. Roberta DeBiasi infectious diseases chief at Children's National Hospital. Close to half of the Covid-19 tests being performed there.

And the affected children are not any sicker than they were when previous variants circulated. But there are definitely more kids with symptoms there than before, she said.


@sh76 said
Omicron spreads much faster (greater raw numbers) and probably is statistically harder on the unvaxxed than the flu. But for vaccinated people, on a per capita basis, Omicron is a minor annoyance (in 99+% of cases, anyway... there's always the exception).

Asymptomatic triple-vaccinated people should not be crashing emergency rooms because the swab they bought on Amazon comes ...[text shortened]... before going to Aunt Millie's Christmas party. That they are is a function of media sensationalism.
You ignored the gist of my post to spew out your usual COVID minimization propaganda.

There's certainly not enough known about omicron to make the definitive statements you make and besides there's still plenty of Delta and other variants around.

Are the hospitalized children "a function of media sensationalism"? How about the 1000+ dead on an average day?


@no1marauder said
Ridiculous like most of your assertions.
Can you prove I am wrong?
If you could I think you would have done so by now.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/21/999241558/in-kids-the-risk-of-covid-19-and-the-flu-are-similar-but-the-risk-perception-isn

Omicron is also infecting mostly vaccinated people.

https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/most-omicron-cases-hit-the-fully-vaccinated


@sh76 said
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/27/health/covid-kids-hospitals/index.html

Ooooohhh... scary headline.

New Omicron variant fills up children's hospitals

Then the article:

Milder infections for some kids, but not all

Children seem to be only mildly ill, for the most part, in New Jersey, said Dr. Jennifer Owensby of the pediatric critical care division at R ...[text shortened]... ts circulated. But there are definitely more kids with symptoms there than before, she said.
What does that have to do with children hospitalized with COVID? Do you think they have no or mild symptoms?


@no1marauder said
You ignored the gist of my post to spew out your usual COVID minimization propaganda.

There's certainly not enough known about omicron to make the definitive statements you make and besides there's still plenty of Delta and other variants around.

Are the hospitalized children "a function of media sensationalism"? How about the 1000+ dead on an average day?
It's a function of a numbers game. It's very, very contagious; and there are still enough unvaxxed targets.

A vaccinated healthy person who lets possible COVID exposure govern his life is behaving irrationally.


@no1marauder said
What does that have to do with children hospitalized with COVID? Do you think they have no or mild symptoms?
From my quote:

""We are definitely seeing an increase in Covid-positive children, but they are not necessarily coming in with Covid symptoms," Owensby said. The kids are coming in for some other treatment, she said, and are testing positive when they are screened."


If you are not taking an expectorant, you may have issues with blood oxygen levels with covid.

Oh wait, we can't blame people for their own poor health outcomes.


@no1marauder said
I debunked this nonsense in another thread. Maybe I'll look it up later and post it again.
All these so called covid deaths over the past two years, why hasn’t the worlds annual death rate gone up by a notable amount?


@trev33 said
All these so called covid deaths over the past two years, why hasn’t the worlds annual death rate gone up by a notable amount?
The rate of change of worldwide deaths per year seems to be pretty consistent over the past 10 years.


@trev33 said
All these so called covid deaths over the past two years, why hasn’t the worlds annual death rate gone up by a notable amount?
The US had about 500,000 more deaths in 2020 than 2019.

By contrast, there were 13,000 more deaths in the US in 2019 than there were in 2018.


@no1marauder said
The US had about 500,000 more deaths in 2020 than 2019.

By contrast, there were 13,000 more deaths in the US in 2019 than there were in 2018.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate

Numbers look pretty unchanged for death rate in the USA through 2021 according to the table.