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@Mott-The-Hoople saidWhat statement?
I didnt make the statement, you did. I thought you were lying.
A mere 2 months ago there were 11 billionaires living in the swamp. Now there will be 24, coming on to be part of Trump's cabinet. You're silly to think this is the beginning to an end.
@wildgrass saidthis statement...
What statement?
A mere 2 months ago there were 11 billionaires living in the swamp. Now there will be 24, coming on to be part of Trump's cabinet. You're silly to think this is the beginning to an end.
"Did you see how many billionaires just moved to DC? "
you didnt show where anyone moved to DC
@wildgrass saidyou should be more concerned with those current millionaires in office that accumulated their wealth while in office
What statement?
A mere 2 months ago there were 11 billionaires living in the swamp. Now there will be 24, coming on to be part of Trump's cabinet. You're silly to think this is the beginning to an end.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidThey are joining Trump's cabinet, jeepers.
this statement...
"Did you see how many billionaires just moved to DC? "
you didnt show where anyone moved to DC
@Mott-The-Hoople saidOne million seconds: 11 days, 13 hours, 46 minutes, and 40 seconds
you should be more concerned with those current millionaires in office that accumulated their wealth while in office
One billion seconds: 31 years and 8 months
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@wildgrass saidYeah, this is what I've been talking about since the election. The MAGA movement is doomed to disappoint. The GOP cannot govern right now, and next year their majority in the House will be even narrower. It's all over but the crying, which will take about two years to set in because it takes time to cut through the fog of cognitive dissonance.
Minimize taxes, streamline government, get it out of the way of private enterprise. These are good ideas, things all Americans agree with.
Republicans only pretend to try to fix these problems. They will write bills, then criticize their own bills, then declare them dead, then rinse and repeat until the next election cycle. Republicans aren't capable people who can fix s ...[text shortened]... guarding goal.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-house-vote-continuing-resolution/
Hell, even if the GOP could govern, the tariffs would murder them. The cost of olive oil alone will likely double, which just by itself will cause all sorts of staples to increase in price dramatically. Recession, infighting, civilian resistance, a radicalized and energized Democratic party. It's going to be a wild ride, but pride comes before the fall, and MAGA is going to go down in flames.
@Soothfast saidA large group of republicans are opposed to cooperation with the democrats.
Yeah, this is what I've been talking about since the election. The MAGA movement is doomed to disappoint. The GOP cannot govern right now, and next year their majority in the House will be even narrower. It's all over but the crying, which will take about two years to set in because it takes time to cut through the fog of cognitive dissonance.
Hell, even if the GOP [i ...[text shortened]... 's going to be a wild ride, but pride comes before the fall, and MAGA is going to go down in flames.
If you can’t work with your political opponents, you can’t govern effectively.
@wildgrass saidThey haven't been sworn in yet, for crying out loud. Those in power at the moment are a divided government, get a grip.
Minimize taxes, streamline government, get it out of the way of private enterprise. These are good ideas, things all Americans agree with.
Republicans only pretend to try to fix these problems. They will write bills, then criticize their own bills, then declare them dead, then rinse and repeat until the next election cycle. Republicans aren't capable people who can fix s ...[text shortened]... guarding goal.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-house-vote-continuing-resolution/
@KellyJay saidNo, the current Congress is led by Republicans. Republicans raised the debt ceiling last time, knowing that they'd need to do it again now.
They haven't been sworn in yet, for crying out loud. Those in power at the moment are a divided government, get a grip.
If Republicans were interested in cutting wasteful spending and being fiscally responsible, why fight to raise the debt limit with a bloated defense budget and add to our national debt?
The answer is because they aren't serious.
@wildgrass
From Robert Reich:
The American oligarchy is back, and it’s out of control
It’s the third time in the nation’s history that a small group of hyper-wealthy people have gained political power over the rest of us.
Today we don’t know if the United States government will shut down tomorrow because, first, Elon Musk followed by his co-president Donald Trump, persuaded House Republicans to vote against a compromise bill, and then, last night, Republicans couldn’t summon enough votes for a stripped-down continuing resolution because Trump insisted that it contain a measure lifting the debt ceiling.
This is not governing. Trump and the Republicans are not a governing party.
What’s the back story to all this? It’s the oligarchy that put Trump into the presidency.
A half-century ago, when America had a large and growing middle class, those on the “left” wanted stronger social safety nets and more public investment in schools, roads, and research. Those on the “right” sought greater reliance on the free market.
But as power and wealth have moved to the top, everyone else — whether on the old right or the old left — has become disempowered and less secure.
Today the great divide is not between left and right. It’s between democracy and oligarchy.
The word “oligarchy” comes from the Greek words meaning rule (arche) by the few (oligos). It refers to a government of and by a few exceedingly rich people or families who control the major institutions of society — and therefore have most power over other peoples’ lives.
So far, Trump has picked 13 billionaires for his administration. It’s the wealthiest in history, including the richest person in the world. They and Trump are part of the American oligarchy, even though Trump campaigned on being the “voice” of the working class.
America’s two previous oligarchies
America has experienced oligarchy twice before. Many of the men who founded America were slaveholding white oligarchs. At that time, the new nation did not have much of a middle class. Most white people were farmers, indentured servants, farm hands, traders, day laborers, and artisans. A fifth of the American population was Black, almost all of them enslaved.
A century later a new American oligarchy emerged comprised of men who amassed fortunes through their railroad, steel, oil, and financial empires — men such as J. Pierpont Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, Cornelius Vanderbilt, and Andrew Mellon. It was called the Gilded Age.
They ushered the nation into an industrial revolution that vastly expanded economic output. But they also corrupted government, brutally suppressed wages, generated unprecedented levels of inequality and urban poverty, pillaged rivals, shut down competitors, and made out like bandits — which is why they earned the sobriquet “robber barons.”
@spruce112358 saidrobert reich...
@wildgrass
From Robert Reich:
The American oligarchy is back, and it’s out of control
It’s the third time in the nation’s history that a small group of hyper-wealthy people have gained political power over the rest of us.Today we don’t know if the United States government will shut down tomorrow because, first, Elon Musk followed by his co-president ...[text shortened]... etitors, and made out like bandits — which is why they earned the sobriquet “robber barons.”
"Reich’s resume raises one red flag: He is not an economist but a lawyer – a Yale Law School classmate of Hillary Clinton, who studied a smattering of economics for his PPE (politics, philosophy, and economics) degree at Oxford – a Rhodes Scholar no less. I am no formal credentials snob. Non PhD economists, such as Robert Samuelson, write very good economics. Robert Reich is not one of them."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2013/09/10/robert-reichs-f-minus-in-economics-false-facts-false-theories/
@Mott-The-Hoople saidHe's not wrong about the billionaires in Trump's new cabinet.
robert reich...
"Reich’s resume raises one red flag: He is not an economist but a lawyer – a Yale Law School classmate of Hillary Clinton, who studied a smattering of economics for his PPE (politics, philosophy, and economics) degree at Oxford – a Rhodes Scholar no less. I am no formal credentials snob. Non PhD economists, such as Robert Samuelson, write very goo ...[text shortened]... /sites/paulroderickgregory/2013/09/10/robert-reichs-f-minus-in-economics-false-facts-false-theories/
@Mott-The-Hoople saidLike many people, Robert Reich occasionally posts something that seems near to the mark. 😆
robert reich...
"Reich’s resume raises one red flag: He is not an economist but a lawyer – a Yale Law School classmate of Hillary Clinton, who studied a smattering of economics for his PPE (politics, philosophy, and economics) degree at Oxford – a Rhodes Scholar no less. I am no formal credentials snob. Non PhD economists, such as Robert Samuelson, write very goo ...[text shortened]... /sites/paulroderickgregory/2013/09/10/robert-reichs-f-minus-in-economics-false-facts-false-theories/
@shavixmir saidThis is definitely part of the issue. But they also campaign with ideas that aren't feasible or real solutions to problems.
A large group of republicans are opposed to cooperation with the democrats.
If you can’t work with your political opponents, you can’t govern effectively.