Scaring the Right

@Cliff-Mashburn said
LOL yeah watch The View/CNN/MSN/etc and get back to us on how kind loving and truthful the left is.

OK, so you may be onto something. 😆

The Left has traditionally been the more loving and tolerant party, where everyone is welcome no matter their race or creed or gender. But you perceive that as having changed.

You now feel the Left is exclusive, where not everyone is welcome. Particularly not White Males, right? Certainly not all creeds or beliefs are welcome. There are many litmus tests - "woke," whatever that has evolved into being one.

Litmus tests are fatal to a political party - the libertarian party has died the death of a thousand litmus tests, for years, and never figured out what they were doing wrong.

If people are being told by a party that they are not "diverse" enough or "woke" enough, they will not join that party.

@KingDavid403 said
Fact is it almost never happens.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ 🙄

Why don’t you look at official year end stats that are more detailed. Many more whites are killed by police each year over double because of the population difference. When looking at the number of deaths now look how many were armed with a gun, knife, using a car and on, committing a violent crime. With the smaller black population a high amount of the violent crime is committed by them contributing to the high prison numbers. On another note the ratio of violent crime is 80% to 20% black on white. I looked at 2016 a while back the numbers killed were around 1350 white, 550 black and when you backed out those that didn’t have a weapon black deaths dropped to around 25.

@mike69 said
Why don’t you look at official year end stats that are more detailed. Many more whites are killed by police each year over double because of the population difference. When looking at the number of deaths now look how many were armed with a gun, knife, using a car and on, committing a violent crime. With the smaller black population a high amount of the violent crime is comm ...[text shortened]... 550 black and when you backed out those that didn’t have a weapon black deaths dropped to around 25.

All these statistics regarding race and crime are meaningless unless and until you adjust for poverty. 😆

Poor people are more likely to commit crimes and get caught. Not black or white people.

@Suzianne said
If only.

They'll just say it's all good and all part of the plan.

Head in the sand is their natural state.

How else could a blowhard like Trump become their daddy figures?

It would take something truly remarkable to get them to admit their emperor has no clothes.

I agree. Once they control the media, they will blame any hardship on the Dems. Plus, I can see them manipulating government statistics so the pain will not be revealed except to those directly hit. They may well renege on the immigration plan by not touching illegal immigrants in agriculture, food processing and hospitality. Is two years enough time for them to make voting irrelevant as it is in Russia and other dictatorships? Trump may trump up a national military crisis shortly before the next presidential election and use it to declare martial law and remain in power.

@spruce112358 said
All these statistics regarding race and crime are meaningless unless and until you adjust for poverty. 😆

Poor people are more likely to commit crimes and get caught. Not black or white people.

Adjust for poverty and anything else you like it doesn’t change facts.

@KingDavid403 said
BLM and the left in general claim cops just shoot blacks all the time without reason.
Not all cops; and not all shootings.

Of the thousand or so police shootings per year, almost all of them are justified,
That's a thousand deaths by police shootings per year; and, they are not all justified. That's not all police shootings per year.

[b]and i ...[text shortened]... ly have no idea what you're talking about. It has slowly been getting better over the last century.

I suppose the cops should just let people shoot them and not defend themselves.
Of the 1000 shootings per year, how many do you claim are unjustified? The answer is almost zero.
Of the ones that aren't justified, how many times do the cops get off without any charges? Again, the answer is almost zero.
But the left claims that it's a daily occurrence and happens all the time. It doesn't.

@mike69 said
Why don’t you look at official year end stats that are more detailed. Many more whites are killed by police each year over double because of the population difference. When looking at the number of deaths now look how many were armed with a gun, knife, using a car and on, committing a violent crime. With the smaller black population a high amount of the violent crime is comm ...[text shortened]... 550 black and when you backed out those that didn’t have a weapon black deaths dropped to around 25.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/17/police-killings-record-2023/72174081007/

Many more whites are killed by police each year over double because of the population difference.
Yes. That's why I said BLM makes us ALL a little safer with their cry's against unjust police shootings. Furthermore, I'm usually on the side of police; believe it or not. However, there are un-needed police shootings much to often in the US. One a year is to often.

With the smaller black population a high amount of the violent crime is committed by them contributing to the high prison numbers.
That's just plain BS you've feed yourself; whites and others are just as violent. Whites still hold the lead in ALL crime categories. Which means; no matter what you say, there are more bad whites in the USA than any other race. 🙂 So in reality, it's whitey one has to look out for. 🙂

@Cliff-Mashburn said
I suppose the cops should just let people shoot them and not defend themselves.
Of the 1000 shootings per year, how many do you claim are unjustified? The answer is almost zero.
Of the ones that aren't justified, how many times do the cops get off without any charges? Again, the answer is almost zero.
But the left claims that it's a daily occurrence and happens all the time. It doesn't.

I suppose the cops should just let people shoot them and not defend themselves.
Of course not; you're not reading what I am posting.

Of the 1000 shootings per year, how many do you claim are unjustified?
My 'off the cuff' guess would be, fifty to a hundred or so.

Of the ones that aren't justified, how many times do the cops get off without any charges?
about 95%+ of the times.
But the left claims that it's a daily occurrence
I would say it's at least a bi-weekly occurrence in the USA today, if not more often.

@KingDavid403 said
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/17/police-killings-record-2023/72174081007/

Many more whites are killed by police each year over double because of the population difference.
Yes. That's why I said BLM makes us ALL a little safer with their cry's against unjust police shootings. Furthermore, I'm usually on the side of police; believe it or ...[text shortened]... whites in the USA than any other race. 🙂 So in reality, it's whitey one has to look out for. 🙂

80% 20% and you’re skipping the facts listed, look at prison stats vrs crimes

@KingDavid403 said
I suppose the cops should just let people shoot them and not defend themselves.
Of course not; you're not reading what I am posting.

Of the 1000 shootings per year, how many do you claim are unjustified?
My 'off the cuff' guess would be, fifty to a hundred or so.

Of the ones that aren't justified, how many times do the cops get off without a ...[text shortened]... ccurrence
I would say it's at least a bi-weekly occurrence in the USA today, if not more often.

You're just making up figures to suit your argument.
Here's a fact.
6000 to 8000 blacks are murdered each year by other blacks, whereas only a couple hundred blacks are shot by cops each year, almost all of which are justified. Blacks have far more to fear from each other than they do the police.

@mike69 said
80% 20% and you’re skipping the facts listed, look at prison stats vrs crimes

More blacks and poor people in general, go to prison because they don't have a proper lawyer.

@Cliff-Mashburn said
You're just making up figures to suit your argument.
Here's a fact.
6000 to 8000 blacks are murdered each year by other blacks, whereas only a couple hundred blacks are shot by cops each year, almost all of which are justified. Blacks have far more to fear from each other than they do the police.

6000 to 8000 blacks are murdered each year by other blacks,
More whites are murdered by whites each year.

Blacks have far more to fear from each other than they do the police.
The Same with white people.

@KingDavid403 said
More blacks and poor people in general, go to prison because they don't have a proper lawyer.

Violent crime

@mike69 said
Adjust for poverty and anything else you like it doesn’t change facts.

There are more relevant facts than what you are looking at. Looking at a single fact and being blind to others often leads to false conclusions 😆

@mike69 said
Violent crime

For that too.

"575 people have been exonerated based on DNA testing in the U.S. According to the National Registry of Exonerations, 575 wrongly convicted people have been exonerated based on DNA tests that demonstrated their innocence since 1989. That includes 196 Innocence Project clients.Apr 25, 2023"

https://innocenceproject.org/dna-and-wrongful-conviction-five-facts-you-should-know/#:~:text=575%20people%20have%20been%20exonerated,includes%20196%20Innocence%20Project%20clients.