Should the USA require that (only) its citizens vote in elections for public office?

@AverageJoe1 said
If you and I sit down and try to figure out voting and such as that to maintain a strong society, we would hardly start talking about historical facts when we have plenty to deal with with present day facts.

Who are you kidding?

Facts don't exist for you.

@mike69 said
So you think something that has never been proven like Bigfoot, the tooth fairy, and having no evidence they do is a good comparison in saying if given the opportunity we know that humans never cheat unless we have evidence?

I gave you a list of numerous suspicious things from the last election, hell it’s coming out Obama and the dems did it to Trump?

Why do you spew lies you heard somewhere as if they were facts?

@lstcyr said
Well, we’ve been okay with it for 250 years and there is no evidence that indicates that there has been ANY more than a minuscule amount of non-citizens voting. Even that amount is based upon the number of people actually caught and prosecuted for the crime. Why would you try to fix something that isn’t happening?

Because they want to control it. It's the only way they can win now with these abysmal poll numbers.

I thought this was clear.

@Suzianne said
Why do you spew lies you heard somewhere as if they were facts?

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@Suzianne said
Or people wanting to "be like Donald".

Well sparky I did say both sides want it for the same reasons?

@Suzianne said
Because they want to control it. It's the only way they can win now with these abysmal poll numbers.

I thought this was clear.

What a stupid post?

@mike69 said
What a stupid post?

You are the king of stupid posts. You ramble incoherently. Where did you learn to write.

@Rajk999 said
There are about 20 million illegals in the US, and you know for sure that none of them voted. The issue is not about who does not vote. The issue is who actually do vote, and the authorities should ensure that only citizens vote. This is currently not the case in many states.

Under existing federal law, voters must attest that they are U.S. citizens when registering, bu ...[text shortened]... s Washington D.C. don't ask voters for ID at all.

There is scope for a whole lot of voter fraud.

You start your post with the 20 million number, when the documented cases of voter fraud averages out to less than 100 per state, over a 12 year time frame. Its rather absurd to suggest that 19.999 million people are getting away with voting illegally. Most illegal aliens want to be as far away from anything government as they can get.

It's been a long thread and no one has yet provided any rationale for a need for new laws. The smattering handful of illegals caught voting doesn't even come close. A sledgehammer isn't needed to unshell a pistachio.

Maybe something like this: In those 23 states where ID is required, are elections more secure? Are non-citizens voting in the other other states more?

In both cases, I don't think they are.

Proof of citizenship is a lot more than just an ID.

@YEAH-BOY said
You are the king of stupid posts. You ramble incoherently. Where did you learn to write.

You’re a damn moron, go away.

@wildgrass said
You start your post with the 20 million number, when the documented cases of voter fraud averages out to less than 100 per state, over a 12 year time frame. Its rather absurd to suggest that 19.999 million people are getting away with voting illegally. Most illegal aliens want to be as far away from anything government as they can get.

It's been a long thread and no one ...[text shortened]... re?

In both cases, I don't think they are.

Proof of citizenship is a lot more than just an ID.

No you don’t answer questions

I am happy to see you use the illegal word though, good job.

@mike69 said
You’re a damn moron, go away.

Thanks for proving my point.

@YEAH-BOY said
Thanks for proving my point.

You back my post every time you post. Go ask your mommy for an ice cream and go play.

@Suzianne said
Just because you would do it doesn't mean everybody would.

Statements like this are meaningless on the Forum.
Like, if we converse with the so-unique parlance of Suzianne, if I follow you suzianne, you might apply that bland sentence as follows:
" Just because (a particular woman) would get an abortion, it doesn't mean (every woman) would."
Since this and your post above are givens, why say it?

@AverageJoe1 said
The question to the speaker and yours to me were to give examples of how fraudulent votingcan happen. Since he and I do not have criminal minds, he and I cannot think of one way to fool the voting process.
And we certainly could not think of it on the spot. So you are being disingenuous to ask such a question. Give it up.

We have no hard time at all, explainin ...[text shortened]... should not worry that a non-citizen would try to vote..

Faeries. You can’t kid a kidder.

This is why your concern gets compared to concern for the presence of Bigfoot. You don't know if it exists. You want to fix a problem without evidence that it is a problem. You want to spend millions of dollars fixing the problem anyway. You want to inconvenience all voters, and disenfranchise some, to fix a problem that you don't know exists or not.

Here's the evidence I've seen. There are waaaaay more examples of MAGA Trump voters getting caught voting twice than there are examples of illegals voting. Do you think there's more of those that didn't get caught? What part of this bill fixes that problem?

@mike69 said
No you don’t answer questions

I am happy to see you use the illegal word though, good job.

You don't ask good questions. Even to yourself.