The Land of Palestine, the Jews & God

@kingdavid403 said
First off,
These Scriptures refer to the return of the Israelites from exile in Babylon after 70 years; back to the destruction of their Jerusalem in 586 BC. God is encouraging them. Then, King Cyrus of the Babylonians gives the Jews all the materials to rebuild Jerusalem.
Yes, Israel will remain when Jesus comes back.

Are you seeing the word PERMANENTLY ?

I will take pleasure in doing good things for them, and I will establish them permanently in this land. (Jeremiah 32:41 GNB)

If this is about 586 BC then God was mistaken, because they were removed from the land of Palestine after Jesus ascended into heaven.

@athousandyoung said
What do you think of this part (Jeremiah 30-33):

30 “The people of Israel and Judah have done nothing but evil in my sight from their youth; indeed, the people of Israel have done nothing but arouse my anger with what their hands have made, declares the Lord. 31 From the day it was built until now, this city has so aroused my anger and wrath that I must remov ...[text shortened]... t where neither people nor animals live, and that it will be given over to the Babylonians.

The Jews were disobedient and they were scattered all over the world by the Babylonians and then by the Romans. The prophecy is that they will be brought back to live permanently in the land of Palestine

@rajk999 said
Are you seeing the word PERMANENTLY ?

I will take pleasure in doing good things for them, and I will establish them permanently in this land. (Jeremiah 32:41 GNB)

If this is about 586 BC then God was mistaken, because they were removed from the land of Palestine after Jesus ascended into heaven.

Who broke the Old Covenant? God or the Jews?
We have a New Covenant now.

@rajk999 said
The Jews were disobedient and they were scattered all over the world by the Babylonians and then by the Romans. The prophecy is that they will be brought back to live permanently in the land of Palestine

Romans, yes. Babylonian's took them into exile (p.o.w.s so to speak). .

@athousandyoung said
What are your thoughts on this:

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-destroys-nature-reserve-uproots-10-000-trees/2125305

The Israeli army on Wednesday destroyed a natural reserve and uprooted at least 10,000 trees in a military campaign in the northern West Bank in a move that Palestinians termed a "crime."

Moataz Bisharat, who is responsible fo ...[text shortened]... e the trees people, that you should besiege them?

Israel is breaking God's laws of war...

"When you are trying to capture a city, do not cut down its fruit trees, even though the siege lasts a long time. Eat the fruit, but do not destroy the trees; the trees are not your enemies. You may cut down the other trees and use them in the siege mounds until the city is captured. (Deuteronomy 20:19-20 GNB)

I guess they are cutting down other trees.

@kingdavid403 said
Who broke the Old Covenant? God or the Jews?
We have a New Covenant now.

Permanently.
Get a dictionary.

@rajk999 said
Permanently.
Get a dictionary.

Permanently.
Yes, as long as they kept their Covenant with God. That's why they were scattered for 2000 years; was that 2000 years not part of the permanently?

@kingdavid403 said
Permanently.
Yes, as long as they kept their Covenant with God. That's why they were scattered for 2000 years; was that 2000 years not part of the permanently?

That sounds like nonsense.

The post that was quoted here has been removed

Thank you Duchess. 🙂

@rajk999 said
The fairytale appears to be coming to pass. It is evidence that the bible is true and that there is a God. I repeat, here the bible accurately predicts
- the return of the Jews
- their ownership of the land ,,permanently
- living in safety
- their prosperity in a land people called desert
- their purchasing and owing the land around Jerusalem.

What is your evidence ...[text shortened]... g more, nothing less.[/i]

I have proof, what proof do you have. Spare me the emotional outburst.

The bible and God are not real.
Get a grip. It’s fantasy.

@rajk999 said
Wrong... if the negotiators did F'ing understand the Bible, the Koran, the Torah, instead of trying to F"ing tell people to just F"ing made the dam deal, only then, would this issue be resolved.

Atheists cannot be good negotiators in situations like this. A man like you for example, they would shoot you and throw in in a ditch ... lol 😀.

First understand the parties ...[text shortened]... ground.
Then make the deal

[Excuse the language. Yours looked good, so I just copied your style]

THE BIBLE IS A FAIRYTALE VERSION OF ONE PEOPLE’S HISTORY.

End of.

To think that anything written thousands of years ago, not based on observation is anything but wishing and seeking is absurd.

Listen to yourself debate with yourself here. It’s like someone claiming chocolate cream eggs will be the salvation of humanity’s calf problems.

@athousandyoung said
Muslims don’t worship Jesus

Actually, they do. As a major prophet.
Although “worship” is a wrong term. Admire would be more suitable.

Not only that, muslims believe that Jesus will lead the rise from the dead at the end times.

@shavixmir said
Actually, they do. As a major prophet.
Although “worship” is a wrong term. Admire would be more suitable.

Not only that, muslims believe that Jesus will lead the rise from the dead at the end times.

Prophets don’t get worshipped.

@rajk999 said
"When you are trying to capture a city, do not cut down its fruit trees, even though the siege lasts a long time. Eat the fruit, but do not destroy the trees; the trees are not your enemies. You may cut down the other trees and use them in the siege mounds until the city is captured. (Deuteronomy 20:19-20 GNB)

I guess they are cutting down other trees.

They’re cutting olive trees.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_production_in_Palestine

The destruction of Palestinian olive trees has become a feature of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict

https://time.com/5714146/olive-harvest-west-bank/

Days after Benjamin ​Neta​nyahu’s campaign promise on September 10 to formally annex the Jordan Valley, the Israeli Civil Administration (ICA) issued an order to uproot hundreds of olive trees owned by Palestinians in the valley right before a planned harvest.

@athousandyoung said
Prophets don’t get worshipped.

BS.
Worshipped, admired, honored... whatever.

The basics are the same: Jesus is important in Islam as a prophet and as the prophet who leads the charge during the end times.
Hark! Those trumpets blaring.