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    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I did not call you a liar.
    What does '[your lack of] trustworthiness when it comes to facts' mean?
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    02 Jan '10 08:38
    Originally posted by FMF
    What is "far left" about any of these stances? They are all moderate.
    Choosing well known left-biased sources and criticising only the Right is moderate?! LOL!
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    02 Jan '10 08:40
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Choosing well known left-biased sources and criticising only the Right is moderate?! LOL!
    Which of the stances of mine, that you listed, are "far left" according to you?
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    02 Jan '10 08:40
    Originally posted by FMF
    What does '[your lack of] trustworthiness when it comes to facts' mean?
    You never are willing to support them when challenged, which is deceptive. You refuse to accept the burden of proof; you actively avoid having to enter the realm of logic. You prefer sophism, rhetoric and trolling.
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    02 Jan '10 08:41
    Originally posted by FMF
    Which of the stances of mine, that you listed, are "far left" according to you?
    I'm not interested in being interrogated by someone who refuses to answer questions.
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    02 Jan '10 08:431 edit
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I'm not interested in being interrogated by someone who refuses to answer questions.
    No, no. Don't climb down ungraciously.

    Which of the stances of mine, that you listed, are "far left" according to you?

    Here they were:

    You accuse others' sources of being biased to the right, but never left.

    You're very critical of Bush, but not Obama.

    You're pro-choice.

    You're highly critical of capitalism;

    you believe social democracy is needed to reign in the free market.

    You favor government control of airwaves rather than private ownership.

    Your fervent, bitter conflicts with conservatives like whodey and Hugh Glass are more evidence.

    There was your recent detailed support for rwingett with respect to Chavez - rwingett was exceptionally admiring if your argument and he is a self described far leftists.


    Which ones are "far left"?
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    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I'm not interested in being interrogated by someone who refuses to answer questions.
    Rec'd.
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    02 Jan '10 08:46
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    You never are willing to support them when challenged, which is deceptive.
    It is, at worst 'unconvincing', assuming your accusation is true [because you have difficulty relating to nuance, I've noticed] but to call me a liar is a bit over the top.
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    02 Jan '10 08:47
    Originally posted by FMF
    No, no. Don't climb down ungraciously.

    Which of the stances of mine, that you listed, are "far left" according to you?

    Here they were:

    [b]You accuse others' sources of being biased to the right, but never left.

    You're very critical of Bush, but not Obama.

    You're pro-choice.

    You're highly critical of capitalism;

    you believe social democra ...[text shortened]... t control of airwaves rather than private ownership.


    Which ones are "far left"?[/b]
    1. the entire line.

    2. the part where it says "very".

    3. (not a far left position)

    4. the part where it says "highly".

    5. (depends on the weighting used by the generator)

    6. (not a far left position, if this is referring to the current status quo)
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    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=pub-5386907765195439&channel=5656732914&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxmint.com%3BCX%3AGoogle%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxmint.com%2Fimg%2Fcse.png%3BLH%3A100%3BLP%3A1%3BVLC%3A%23663399%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B&adkw=AELymgWJLbwTF4nDjNlVeyTI_a43jK04S7X2wBJKmIVLKL4sAJg7HZfAd20D9kk3XxX_gNGryoaVPj1DL ...[text shortened]... president-george-w-bush

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    are we settled on this?
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    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=pub-5386907765195439&channel=5656732914&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxmint.com%3BCX%3AGoogle%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxmint.com%2Fimg%2Fcse.png%3BLH%3A100%3BLP%3A1%3BVLC%3A%23663399%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B&adkw=AELymgWJLbwTF4nDjNlVeyTI_a43jK04S7X2wBJKmIVLKL4sAJg7HZfAd20D9kk3XxX_gNGryoaVPj1DL ...[text shortened]... president-george-w-bush

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    Has Bush criticized Cheney's behaviour?
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    02 Jan '10 09:21
    yes:

    http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/001434.htm

    During his first post-presidential appearance yesterday in Canada, George W. Bush said he would refrain from criticizing his successor, insisting President Obama "deserves my silence." Apparently, Dick Cheney did not read the memo. In a blistering attack on Obama just two days earlier, Cheney ignored Bush's Golden Rule.
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    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    During his first post-presidential appearance yesterday in Canada, George W. Bush said he would refrain from criticizing his successor, insisting President Obama "deserves my silence." Apparently, Dick Cheney did not read the memo. In a blistering attack on Obama just two days earlier, Cheney ignored Bush's Golden Rule.
    That's not an answer.

    Has Bush actually criticized Cheney's behaviour?

    Try again.
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    02 Jan '10 09:34
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
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    Ten citations of the SAME comment in March 18??? And a comment in which Bush did not criticize Cheney-type behaviour - maybe because Cheney's more egregious behaviour had not happened yet.

    Any examples of Bush distancing himself from Cheney in, say, the last 3 or 4 months?
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    02 Jan '10 09:37
    this is a chess site. most of us are fairly intelligent. but for you, i keep having to spell things out, and even then, you just repeat ad infinitum.

    try this on for size:

    in my opinion ....

    bush's statement coming two days after cheney's is a criticism of cheney's statement. it is not a random coincidence.
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