@mott-the-hoople said"I make this statement knowingly and voluntarily because I am, in fact, guilty of the crime charged.
mueller threatened to go after flynns son...
“Nevertheless, after Mueller was appointed special counsel, investigators zeroed in on Flynn and his son, Michael Flynn Jr., who served as his chief of staff. Flynn was rapidly drained of his savings in the investigation and pleaded guilty, reportedly to protect his son and any remaining assets”
“it is interesting t ...[text shortened]... ill.com/opinion/judiciary/374738-evidence-withheld-in-flynn-case-brady-motion-makes-one-wonder%3famp
Defendant's Acceptance, signed by Michael Flynn https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/michael-flynn-court-filing/index.html
Nothing in the Plea Agreement prevents the Government from filing charges against anyone else, including Flynn's son:
"No agreements, promises, understandings or representations have been made by the parties or their counsels other than those contained in the writings herein, nor will any such agreements, promises, understandings or representations be made unless committed to writing and signed by your client, defense counsel and Special Counsel's Office."
Plea Agreement, Section 13, Complete Agreement
https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-documents
05 Nov 18
@no1marauder saidyou dont know what all was said in the agreement...
"I make this statement knowingly and voluntarily because I am, in fact, guilty of the crime charged.
Defendant's Acceptance, signed by Michael Flynn https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/michael-flynn-court-filing/index.html
Nothing in the Plea Agreement prevents the Government from filing charges against anyone else, including Flynn's son:
"No agreements, prom ...[text shortened]... , Section 13, Complete Agreement
https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-documents
@mott-the-hoople saidActually I do since it is all there in the links I provided.
you dont know what all was said in the agreement...
06 Nov 18
@no1marauder saidThe maybe this or maybe that defense. Don't you mean Germany instead of the Czech Republic?
That's a lot of speculation from a year old story. The idea that Cohen's passport would have "stamps" from Czech officials has been debunked since even before that time. In fact, Cohen's passport proves he was in Europe at the time and could have passed into the Czech Republic without getting his passport stamped:
The stamps indicate he traveled abroad at least four t ...[text shortened]... t one bit of false information in a dossier containing raw intelligence "ruins" the entire document.
I have my doubts about the reliability of buzzfeed news. I don't think that claim is credible.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/buzzfeed/
Are you claiming Cohen deliberately chose a route that was the most secret so as to be able to have plausible deniability he was in Prague? Is that a fact or conspiracy theory?
@metal-brain saidUMM, there's a picture of his passport right in the link. That's not "credible"?
The maybe this or maybe that defense. Don't you mean Germany instead of the Czech Republic?
I have my doubts about the reliability of buzzfeed news. I don't think that claim is credible.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/buzzfeed/
Are you claiming Cohen deliberately chose a route that was the most secret so as to be able to have plausible deniability he was in Prague? Is that a fact or conspiracy theory?
No, Prague isn't in Germany (not since 1945).
We'll soon know one way or the other; Cohen is cooperating with Mueller and federal prosecutors. The point is the dossier's information on this has not been debunked as you claimed.
06 Nov 18
@no1marauder saidFrom the link below:
UMM, there's a picture of his passport right in the link. That's not "credible"?
No, Prague isn't in Germany (not since 1945).
We'll soon know one way or the other; Cohen is cooperating with Mueller and federal prosecutors. The point is the dossier's information on this has not been debunked as you claimed.
"McClatchy reported that Cohen entered the country through Germany in August or early September 2016, which does not require a passport stamp.
"The dossier claimed that, in Prague, Cohen met with a prominent ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Konstantin Kosachev, but it is not clear whether Mueller has evidence of such a meeting."
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/383123-mueller-can-prove-cohen-made-secret-trip-to-prague-before-the-election-report
Notice that last part.
"but it is not clear whether Mueller has evidence of such a meeting."
There is no evidence of what you are claiming. Never was.
This is just another one of your "just you wait, you will see" nonsense defenses. I can make predictions too. Why don't you create a prediction thread? I can make record of my prediction Biden will be our next president. Just wait, you will see!
@metal-brain saidIn case you forgot what you cited just a page ago:
From the link below:
"McClatchy reported that Cohen entered the country through Germany in August or early September 2016, which does not require a passport stamp.
"The dossier claimed that, in Prague, Cohen met with a prominent ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Konstantin Kosachev, but it is not clear whether Mueller has evidence of such a meeting."
http ...[text shortened]... hread? I can make record of my prediction Biden will be our next president. Just wait, you will see!
The idea that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague in August 2016 to meet with “Kremlin representatives and associated operators/hackers” to discuss “how to process deniable cash payments to . . . anti-Clinton hackers paid by both Trump team and Kremlin” has been debunked.
No, it hasn't.
06 Nov 18
@no1marauder saidAre you claiming Cohen deliberately chose a route that was the most secret so as to be able to have plausible deniability he was in Prague? Is that a fact or conspiracy theory?
In case you forgot what you cited just a page ago:
The idea that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague in August 2016 to meet with “Kremlin representatives and associated operators/hackers” to discuss “how to process deniable cash payments to . . . anti-Clinton hackers paid by both Trump team and Kremlin” has been debunked.
No, it hasn't.
@metal-brain saidPerhaps you should look up what "debunked" means.
Are you claiming Cohen deliberately chose a route that was the most secret so as to be able to have plausible deniability he was in Prague? Is that a fact or conspiracy theory?
06 Nov 18
@kazetnagorra saidIt has been debunked. Here is an excerpt from the link below:
Perhaps you should look up what "debunked" means.
"Czech authorities found no evidence he visited Prague; and University of Southern California officials confirm he was on campus visiting his son during that time."
https://nypost.com/2017/11/19/here-are-some-of-the-biggest-myths-of-the-russian-collusion-story/
no1 is wrong and so are you. He was on campus visiting his son at that time. Debunked!
06 Nov 18
@no1marauder saidYes, it has.
In case you forgot what you cited just a page ago:
The idea that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague in August 2016 to meet with “Kremlin representatives and associated operators/hackers” to discuss “how to process deniable cash payments to . . . anti-Clinton hackers paid by both Trump team and Kremlin” has been debunked.
No, it hasn't.
"Czech authorities found no evidence he visited Prague; and University of Southern California officials confirm he was on campus visiting his son during that time."
https://nypost.com/2017/11/19/here-are-some-of-the-biggest-myths-of-the-russian-collusion-story/
There is also this:
"What doesn’t check out at all, though, is the dossier’s most serious charge: that Trump officials secretly met with Kremlin officials overseas to hatch the hacking scheme against the Clinton campaign."
The dossier is full of falsehoods. It has been largely debunked.
@metal-brain saidBaloney. That was one weekend in the entire summer and it is beyond question he was in Europe earlier. The dossier did not claim he was in Prague that weekend, so your propaganda piece is misleading the gullible and/or careless.
It has been debunked. Here is an excerpt from the link below:
"Czech authorities found no evidence he visited Prague; and University of Southern California officials confirm he was on campus visiting his son during that time."
https://nypost.com/2017/11/19/here-are-some-of-the-biggest-myths-of-the-russian-collusion-story/
no1 is wrong and so are you. He was on campus visiting his son at that time. Debunked!
06 Nov 18
@metal-brain saidWhat was Carter Page doing in Moscow a month after the Trump Tower meeting? Why did he go back in December?
Yes, it has.
"Czech authorities found no evidence he visited Prague; and University of Southern California officials confirm he was on campus visiting his son during that time."
https://nypost.com/2017/11/19/here-are-some-of-the-biggest-myths-of-the-russian-collusion-story/
There is also this:
"What doesn’t check out at all, though, is the dossier’s most serio ...[text shortened]... e against the Clinton campaign."
The dossier is full of falsehoods. It has been largely debunked.
06 Nov 18
@no1marauder saidThe dossier's main claim that the Russian government ran a clandestine effort to help Trump win the election has been corroborated by all US intelligence agencies and the Special Counsel (with indictments).
What was Carter Page doing in Moscow a month after the Trump Tower meeting? Why did he go back in December?
06 Nov 18
@no1marauder saidintelligence agencies corrupted by Obama and indictments that have zero to do with Trump...quit your lying.
The dossier's main claim that the Russian government ran a clandestine effort to help Trump win the election has been corroborated by all US intelligence agencies and the Special Counsel (with indictments).