@no1marauder saidBiden will not use it. I figure hevwill be gone soon, and the next pres would use it and help Ukraine. That is, if you haven’t reduced the funding to do so
What exactly is US defense spending accomplishing in Ukraine?
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@averagejoe1 saidAre you proposing we go to war with Russia to "save Ukraine"?
10%. Why thats exactly the portion of our military that could save Ukraine!!! So if Marauder cuts military by 10% , he wants to dole it out to people who have made bad, or no, judgements. Poor planners. These people would use up the money that would instead have gone to save Ukraine.
I think it's a bit ridiculous that someone can lose his money gambling and still be able to discharge his debts in bankruptcy but a person who goes to college for four years but ends up with so much debt for doing so that he can't afford it cannot.
Then again, I'm not in favor of cutting off my own nose to spite my face which, considering the favorable economic effects of both the student loan program and the forgiveness of much of that debt resulting from it would have, is what you and QQ are advocating just because it gives you jollies to "punish" people.
@metal-brain saidmaybe this means something to you, I cant make heads or tails out of it
Do you work for Raytheon?
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@no1marauder saidAbsolutely nothing…biden is scared of putin…it looks like you folks didnt learn anything from hitler
What exactly is US defense spending accomplishing in Ukraine?
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@no1marauder saidI’m saying we need enough military to be the country that maintains balance, wherever it is. We have to be the country whose currency (the dollar) has to be the most dependable, upon which all other countries tie their currencies. We have to be America, all while fighting off those who would be irresponsible with the strength of our military and in the allocation of our dollars.
Are you proposing we go to war with Russia to "save Ukraine"?
I think it's a bit ridiculous that someone can lose his money gambling and still be able to discharge his debts in bankruptcy but a person who goes to college for four years but ends up with so much debt for doing so that he can't afford it cannot.
Then again, I'm not in favor of cutting off my own nose t ...[text shortened]... would have, is what you and QQ are advocating just because it gives you jollies to "punish" people.
Somewhere in America are 2 neighbors, one of whom planned and got a college education, and the other who piddled his life away and wants us to pay for his mistakes.
Are you proposing to go to loser-war with those people? If that guy went to the bank and borrowed his tuition, and then never paid it back, do you think the government should pay that bank the money that he borrowed ?
Geez. Is that you, Jimmmmm
@averagejoe1 saidbiden told putin cyber attacks are ok, except for a few he really really wishes he wouldnt mess with
The military budget no doubt includes funds to fight the threatened cyber threat from Russia.
Now say, yeah, that makes sense.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/biden-tells-putin-certain-cyber-attacks-should-be-off-limits-2021-06-16/
@mott-the-hoople saidRaytheon makes war stuff, prob not a good stock to buy as it would be under normal circumstances. Biden, not your normal president. Hell, he may work a deal with Russia to require Raytheon to arm them.
maybe this means something to you, I cant make heads or tails out of it
@averagejoe1 saidYou didn't answer my question:
I’m saying we need enough military to be the country that maintains balance, wherever it is. We have to be the country whose currency (the dollar) has to be the most dependable, upon which all other countries tie their currencies. We have to be America, all while fighting off those who would be irresponsible with the strength of our military and in the allocation of our d ...[text shortened]... the government should pay that bank the money that he borrowed ?
Geez. Is that you, Jimmmmm
Are you proposing we go to war with Russia to "save Ukraine"?
I'd ask the same question of Mott since he apparently thinks Putin is an equivalent to Hitler.
@no1marauder saidI think ALL countries should support Ukraine. You pose a loaded question. If you call supporting a country under attack for no reason starting a war, you are sadly mistaken.
You didn't answer my question:
Are you proposing we go to war with Russia to "save Ukraine"?
I'd ask the same question of Mott since he apparently thinks Putin is an equivalent to Hitler.
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@mott-the-hoople saidWhat do you mean specifically by "support"?
I think ALL countries should support Ukraine. You pose a loaded question. If you call supporting a country under attack for no reason starting a war, you are sadly mistaken.
Stop weaseling.
@no1marauder saidA fair question. I do not want to 'go to war, ground or otherwise' with Russia. That is not the same as our protecting Ukraine from Russia. So, having answered your question, do you think that we can in some way impede the progress of Putiin's invasion? If you agree with me, that we can, ......Are you proposing that we do Not try to impede that progress,,,, that, we stand by and let it happen?
You didn't answer my question:
Are you proposing we go to war with Russia to "save Ukraine"?
I'd ask the same question of Mott since he apparently thinks Putin is an equivalent to Hitler.
@averagejoe1 saidI'm not sure what would impede Putin's progress besides a negotiated settlement or the introduction of troops and planes.
A fair question. I do not want to 'go to war, ground or otherwise' with Russia. That is not the same as our protecting Ukraine from Russia. So, having answered your question, do you think that we can in some way impede the progress of Putiin's invasion? If you agree with me, that we can, ......Are you proposing that we do Not try to impede that progress,,,, that, we stand by and let it happen?
I'm fine with economic sanctions to signal moral outrage at this act of aggression though the US not buying Russian oil while Europe continues to seems like we're punishing ourselves more than Putin.
I don't agree with barring individual Russian athletes from competing, including in the paralympics, because of the actions of their government, however.
@no1marauder saidIn other words, you agree - but are too afraid to agree - that the only thing which will stop a psychopath like Putin is a kick to the testicles.
I'm not sure what would impede Putin's progress besides a negotiated settlement or the introduction of troops and planes.
Because he sure as testicles will never keep to any negotiated limit. He never has until now.