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@sonhouse saidSee my post where I explain that he did not start the war, Iran did. Trump is ending the forever war! See how confused you little guys get? You fly off the handle, you do not think. Even Shav says we bugger up the planet. Nukes would bugger up a planet, that is for sure.
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He was lying out his ass all along he would never start a war
This was my explantation in earlier post, page 1
I must correct you however,, this is hardly 'Trump's War', Iran started the war 47 years ago, that does not magically make it 'his war'. Give me a break. Responding to all the hell that they have done, holding the hostages for 440 days, funding terrorism and attacking US interests for decades is not the same as creating the war..Give me another break.""
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Iran has maintained a decades-long campaign of targeting the United States through its own forces and a network of proxy militias, frequently described by U.S. officials as the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism. These proxies, including Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and various Iraqi militias, are armed, trained, and funded by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) to attack American military and diplomatic personnel throughout the Middle East.
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@AverageJoe1 saidThe answer is no.
Catch us up, Shav. You can write on, or you can answer the main question to get you into the loop.
Do you agree that the USA should have, after 47 years of tolerating that which they have done,**, attacked Iran?
What an easy question. Why will you have a discombobulated answer, whereupon I will say, 'whatever, but do you think we should have attacked Iran."
...[text shortened]... d like to, but since we did the attacking, you should define it as the USA would define it. Thanks.
There were agreements in place, which the US cast aside.
No intelligence service or UN inspection has found any degree of nuclear weapon capability.
On a grander scale:
- why should the US and Israel have nuclear weapons and Luxembourg and Iran not?
- the war is illegal, considering agreements the US has signed up to.
On a petite scale:
- civilians are being murdered.
- my petrol prices are getting very high.
And on the moral scale:
- Who the fvck do you think you are? God? You have the right to decide who the hell is right and who is wrong?
How small is your cock? How large your ego? How deep your tongue in trump’s arse?
And woe the pain when your skyscraper tumbles and a mere 3000 die. The end of times! Hypocrites!
Do you feel the anger? Do you feel the hate?
That is what you are creating. A generation who couldn’t give a flying fvck if US tourists are raped and destroyed as worthless beings wherever they roam.
Congradulations Joe, you have made yourself and your children targets.
Hey! You may be fine with that.
I am not! I despise the pain you enjoy supporting, I hate any civilians paying the price for the over-inflated egos of politicians and lobbyists and I cannot abide the world you support creating.
So, Joe, even though I pity you, it’s probably best for humanity that you die.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidI guess it means nothing to you Iran has a population a full one third of the US, 100 million population. So Trump is going to send 2000 troops to the Gulf of Hormuz to open it up? Sounds like 2000 dead soldiers. Iran can keep the Gulf closed easily by mines dropped out of dozens of speedboats. So maybe an aircraft carrier right there can stop all that stuff and clear out the mines already there.
Soon....Venezuela, Iran, and now even Cuba looks like they will be coming into the US sphere of influence with better US relations. Trump will triumphantly have fixed three countries that have been a thorn in our side for 50 years.
Sure, it could happen, but Trump doesn't have the brains to think more than a few minutes ahead at any one time and now that that assshole Hegseth has decimated the 4 star ranks now Trump only has sycophants, 3 stars and 2 stars, to advise him on tactics.
In other words, NO tactics, just play it hour by hour, if the stock market drops too far, Trump TACO's again, I WON, pulls out leaving Iran REALLY pissed.
Another POS worthless war.
When bush Jr attacked Iraq based on BS from Dick Cheney and others of weapons of mass destruction, a false tale and now we have EXACTLY the same routine going on in Iran, Trump first says We OBLITERATED Iran's nuclear program but now the rationale for the war is now Trump says they are 2 weeks away from a nuke. Hypocrisy lessons from our hypocrite in chief.
@mike69 saidSOME truth there. ANY truth like that about Trump would have been enough to impeach any other president say 40 or 50 years ago but Trump is now immune till out of office from the infinite wisdom of the ultrarightwingnuts on SCOTUS.
Look at your ranting, with some truth, and a lot of crazy, yep I do.
@AverageJoe1 saidSo you are ok with US missiles that killed 175 school girls in a raid based on ten year old information there was a military base there but ten years ago the school was built with a playground that can easily be seen from space but wasn't so now the resolve of the Iranian people has gone up considerably.
See my post where I explain that he did not start the war, Iran did. Trump is ending the forever war! See how confused you little guys get? You fly off the handle, you do not think. Even Shav says we bugger up the planet. Nukes would bugger up a planet, that is for sure.
This was my explantation in earlier post, page 1
I must correct you however,, this is hard ...[text shortened]... and attacking US interests for decades is not the same as creating the war..Give me another break.""
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@sonhouse saidWhat a dumb and at the same time pathetic thing to say. What do you think about Iran using very deadly cluster bombs at everyone around them and actually randomly at that???????????
So you are ok with US missiles that killed 175 school girls in a raid based on ten year old information there was a military base there but ten years ago the school was built with a playground that can easily be seen from space but wasn't so now the resolve of the Iranian people has gone up considerably.
Where is your outrage at irans terrorist attacks over the last 47 years and those killed by them and their families.
@mike69 saidI spent that outrage 47 years ago, do you think we didn't remember that terrible time?
What a dumb and at the same time pathetic thing to say. What do you think about Iran using very deadly cluster bombs at everyone around them and actually randomly at that???????????
Where is your outrage at irans terrorist attacks over the last 47 years and those killed by them and their families.
There is this pesky set of war rules where one rule says don't target civilians.
So Iran did that taking our hostages.
So I guess you figure it is payback to kill a couple hundred children.
No tears from you. Who gives a crap about those sub humans.
@sonhouse saidIs that all they have done silly boy, and great answers.
I spent that outrage 47 years ago, do you think we didn't remember that terrible time?
There is this pesky set of war rules where one rule says don't target civilians.
So Iran did that taking our hostages.
So I guess you figure it is payback to kill a couple hundred children.
No tears from you. Who gives a crap about those sub humans.
@mike69 saidAttacks on military targets aren't "terrorism".
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Iran has maintained a decades-long campaign of targeting the United States through its own forces and a network of proxy militias, frequently described by U.S. officials as the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism. These proxies, including Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and various Iraqi militias, are armed, trained, and funded by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) to attack American military and diplomatic personnel throughout the Middle East.
Yes, Iran has supported forces which have resisted US military occupation of various countries in the Middle East esp. Lebanon and Iraq. So what? Would the USSR have been justified in attacking the US because this country supplied the Afghan rebels in the 1980s?
@no1marauder saidI don’t have the energy to deal with your stupidity, and it’s extremely pointless, as you are slow.
Attacks on military targets aren't "terrorism".
Yes, Iran has supported forces which have resisted US military occupation of various countries in the Middle East esp. Lebanon and Iraq. So what? Would the USSR have been justified in attacking the US because this country supplied the Afghan rebels in the 1980s?
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@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidHim, sonhouse, shav, and sue are pointless.
This is a pretty weak and lazy response Mike. To accuse him of stupidity is a daft thing to claim in itself.
Did you see where he said Iran hasn’t done or funded terrorist activities😳
@shavixmir saidThere were no 'agreements'., no 'degree of nuke weaponry'. ?Agreements with terrorists,' and 'not a hint that they re doing uranium and told us they would kill us. So queer that you say all this.
The answer is no.
There were agreements in place, which the US cast aside.
No intelligence service or UN inspection has found any degree of nuclear weapon capability.
On a grander scale:
- why should the US and Israel have nuclear weapons and Luxembourg and Iran not?
- the war is illegal, considering agreements the US has signed up to.
On a petite scale:
- ci ...[text shortened]... support creating.
So, Joe, even though I pity you, it’s probably best for humanity that you die.
The war is illegal? It is theirs, 47 years long, and we are getting the brunt of it, so, blow them to hell.. Peace thru strength.
Civilians were murdered by their govt. Murdered. On the other hand, some like those inHiroshima, were the casualties of war, could not be avoided. Yhen there is that pesky Fog of War, not a prefect fog, is it. We could hve just not done it 😆 . Hell, Netherlands would be just a warm-up target, or, after we got blown up, THEN you would be a target. I debate with faeries.
So queer to worry about petrol. Patience, they will be even lower. Trump will control a LOT of stuff. These actins also will settle the Chinee down. Thanks, Donald.
We indeed had the right to decide Hitler was WRONG. Just another walk in the park for the United States of America, you can thank us later. And you will.. You will say you were sorry that you defended these cretins. Oh, you are correct that they are planning some skyscraper as we speak, we are pretty sure that our Democratic Party wants something like this to happen so that they can take over our government. Iran does that, it will only get Trump's ire up and you will not BELIEVE his response. He likes to put down cretins if you haven't noticed. Yeah, people will die in Iran, (not murder, look it up) but they died in Hiroshima. Please do not bore us that we should've not have bombed Hiroshima. We certainly should have. And Nagasaki.
OF Course I feel ANGER AND HATE, right here on the Forum. TDS abounds. Please do remember that when I have asked you fellows if there has ever been one good thing that Trump has done, you would not say that there was. So this totally dilutes any credibility that you have, and letters like this and your friend Sunhouse fall on deaf ears. We consider the source, which would be you and Sunhouse.