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You simply must see why Iran war is necessary.

You simply must see why Iran war is necessary.

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@AverageJoe1 said
There were no 'agreements'., no 'degree of nuke weaponry'. ?Agreements with terrorists,' and 'not a hint that they re doing uranium and told us they would kill us. So queer that you say all this.

The war is illegal? It is theirs, 47 years long, and we are getting the brunt of it, so, blow them to hell.. Peace thru strength.

Civilians were murdered by their govt. ...[text shortened]... and your friend Sunhouse fall on deaf ears. We consider the source, which would be you and Sunhouse.
Dude, the only reason the US joined WW2, was because the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour.
It had nothing to do with Hitler and his erhics.

As for the rest of your post: huh?


@shavixmir said
Dude, the only reason the US joined WW2, was because the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour.
It had nothing to do with Hitler and his erhics.

As for the rest of your post: huh?
You miss the point as usual. I am saying that we CAN INDEED decide if someone is out of line, affecting the USA. and give them hell. Hitler DEFINITELY was going to affect us. If he took over Netherlands, where he was headed, from whence would get tulips, bicycles and delftware.?????
Next you will say..'we should not get into the affairs and business of other countries'. Man we got into Hitler affair, and Khomanmemi affairs.
Are you The Faerie Of The Forum
Never a thank you to the USA for saving Europe ass. Yeah , yeah, with allies.


@AverageJoe1 said
There were no 'agreements'., no 'degree of nuke weaponry'. ?Agreements with terrorists,' and 'not a hint that they re doing uranium and told us they would kill us. So queer that you say all this.

The war is illegal? It is theirs, 47 years long, and we are getting the brunt of it, so, blow them to hell.. Peace thru strength.

Civilians were murdered by their govt. ...[text shortened]... and your friend Sunhouse fall on deaf ears. We consider the source, which would be you and Sunhouse.
The US has been attacking Iran intermittently since the 1980s, including shooting down a civilian airliner in 1988 killing 290 persons. This country has invaded several Middle Eastern nations and has given Israel virtually unlimited amount of weaponry to kill and oppress Muslims.

Iran's responses have been modest in comparison. This is an unnecessary war started by two fools.


@AverageJoe1 said
You miss the point as usual. I am saying that we CAN INDEED decide if someone is out of line, affecting the USA. and give them hell. Hitler DEFINITELY was going to affect us. If he took over Netherlands, where he was headed, from whence would get tulips, bicycles and delftware.?????
Next you will say..'we should not get into the affairs and business of other countr ...[text shortened]... Faerie Of The Forum
Never a thank you to the USA for saving Europe ass. Yeah , yeah, with allies.
The USSR played a larger part in winning WW2 than the US did; in Europe, and arguably against Japan too.

And every single time the US has involved itself in the Middle-East it’s only made matter worse.
And arguably, the same can be said about it interfering with Africa and Southern America as well.

You do not comprehend history. You do not understand international politics and you have completely 0 understanding of action and reaction in the behavioural sphere.

Just stop it. Just shut your trap and let those who, at least understand history and consequences, debate in peace.

You’re like the 7th wheel screaming about ice cream in the middle of a divorce.


@AverageJoe1 said
You miss the point as usual. I am saying that we CAN INDEED decide if someone is out of line, affecting the USA. and give them hell. Hitler DEFINITELY was going to affect us. If he took over Netherlands, where he was headed, from whence would get tulips, bicycles and delftware.?????
Next you will say..'we should not get into the affairs and business of other countr ...[text shortened]... Faerie Of The Forum
Never a thank you to the USA for saving Europe ass. Yeah , yeah, with allies.
Your ignorance (and disrespect) for history is astounding.


@sonhouse said
I spent that outrage 47 years ago, do you think we didn't remember that terrible time?
There is this pesky set of war rules where one rule says don't target civilians.
So Iran did that taking our hostages.
So I guess you figure it is payback to kill a couple hundred children.
No tears from you. Who gives a crap about those sub humans.
If you follow your logic, no bomb for Hiroshima. Hundreds of thousands of us and japs and all in between would have died.
Bad thinking


@shavixmir said
The USSR played a larger part in winning WW2 than the US did; in Europe, and arguably against Japan too.

And every single time the US has involved itself in the Middle-East it’s only made matter worse.
And arguably, the same can be said about it interfering with Africa and Southern America as well.

You do not comprehend history. You do not understand international po ...[text shortened]... debate in peace.

You’re like the 7th wheel screaming about ice cream in the middle of a divorce.
Yeah, and all we hear are people like you who are not behind closed doors in the war rooms. Does Nlands even HAVE a war room>. Soldiers??? or do you just bank on the USA to keep saving ass. Sonhouse wants us to feed everyone.
Everyone, Shav says we should not have attacked Iran, and Marauder says we should just stop now!!!! Some of you want us to reduce mililtary!! I have a personal friend in a DC think tank.....They all support larger defense budget. THEY are in the war room, while Shav picks tulips.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Thank you, a nice post.
As I did not see Ingraham (and I'm glad you watch it) I cannot respond reasonably, and would be curious why it would be liberals' fault that Trump cannot open safe passage. Could you give us a simple explanation of that?

I must correct you however,, this is hardly 'Trump's War', Iran started the war 47 years ago, that does not magically mak ...[text shortened]... g this Trump;'s War is like blaming the firefighter for the fire because he showed up to put it out.
and would be curious why it would be liberals' fault that Trump cannot open safe passage. Could you give us a simple explanation of that?

It was Laura Ingrahm and her little band of minions that that were trying to "give us a simple explanation of that" Not me. So, go and ask the rest of your MAGA buddies, because all Laura Ingrahm could do is default to the standard FOX News talking point, and blame the Liberals for Trump's failure to open the strait, bring down the ruling regime, and end its nuke capabilities.

Remember the MAGA default program Joe. Whenever Trump can't deliver on his promises, then It's ALWAYS the Liberals fault. 😏


@no1marauder said
The US has been attacking Iran intermittently since the 1980s, including shooting down a civilian airliner in 1988 killing 290 persons. This country has invaded several Middle Eastern nations and has given Israel virtually unlimited amount of weaponry to kill and oppress Muslims.

Iran's responses have been modest in comparison. This is an unnecessary war started by two fools.
Everyone notice how marauder by himself creates propaganda, using the facts of a mistaken airline disaster to make the USA look like murderers. That, my friends, is propaganda, which we were trying to define in earlier threads.

“””Key Details of the Incident:
The Attack: The USS Vincennes, under Captain William C. Rogers III, fired two surface-to-air missiles at the Airbus A300, which was on a scheduled flight from Bandar Abbas to Dubai.
Mistaken Identity: The crew believed the airliner was an Iranian military aircraft that was hostile.
Aftermath & Settlement: While not formally apologizing, the US expressed "deep regret" and reached a 1996 settlement with Iran at the International Court of Justice, paying US$61.8 million in compensation to victims' families on an ex gratia basis.
Wikipedia”

So, in closing this quite a simple post, outing marauder, the question is, do you continue to glom onto everything that he says??


And for your homework today, please use this as an example of propaganda. You’re seeing it in the making…. a rare sight.


@mchill said
and would be curious why it would be liberals' fault that Trump cannot open safe passage. Could you give us a simple explanation of that?

It was Laura Ingrahm and her little band of minions that that were trying to "give us a simple explanation of that" Not me. So, go and ask the rest of your MAGA buddies, because all Laura Ingrahm could do is default to the standard FOX Ne ...[text shortened]... t program Joe. Whenever Trump can't deliver on his promises, then It's ALWAYS the Liberals fault. 😏
You post is too general, sorry. We could easily come up with you fellas saying that Trump is responsible for everything. So I would forget that tack if I were you.
There must be some reason that Trump is not opening the strait as you and marauder and sonhouse want to happen. I am thinking that he has good reason for that that we will find out soon enough. Maybe he wants to save lives, have you ever thought of that. When he opens it, people will probably die, so maybe he is trying to reduce the number of deaths so you libs will get off of his ass. There has to be deaths. There had to be in Hiroshima don’t you see?
Maybe Truman was having a cup of coffee when the bomb hit in Hiroshima. Do you think maybe he should not have had a cup of coffee? Dig in boys. Let’s vote on who should be in the War room. That would help out a lot of questions. I vote for Susie to be our representative in the war room.


@mchill said
and would be curious why it would be liberals' fault that Trump cannot open safe passage. Could you give us a simple
Common. Answer a question. Here it is again.

As I did not see Ingraham (and I'm glad you watch it) I cannot respond reasonably, and would be curious why it would be liberals' fault that Trump cannot open safe passage. Could you give us a simple explanation .


@AverageJoe1 said
If you follow your logic, no bomb for Hiroshima. Hundreds of thousands of us and japs and all in between would have died.
Bad thinking
Yeah, bad thinking to feel for the deaths of children no matter what century. YOU just refuse to accept WE are the ones who murdered those children through incompetence. No big surprise, that is Trump's MO. His RELIGION since he HATES competence so his big love is the love of INCOMPETENCE because he can then think I am top dog here, I tell those low life servants what to do.


@AverageJoe1 said
Yeah, and all we hear are people like you who are not behind closed doors in the war rooms. Does Nlands even HAVE a war room>. Soldiers??? or do you just bank on the USA to keep saving ass. Sonhouse wants us to feed everyone.
Everyone, Shav says we should not have attacked Iran, and Marauder says we should just stop now!!!! Some of you want us to reduce mililtary!! ...[text shortened]... tank.....They all support larger defense budget. THEY are in the war room, while Shav picks tulips.
Yeah. Sure, I pick tulips.
At the same time, you don’t seem to address the points I make.

Why is that? Can you not comprehend the larger picture? Or does it just make you feel uncomfortable?


@AverageJoe1 said
Everyone notice how marauder by himself creates propaganda, using the facts of a mistaken airline disaster to make the USA look like murderers. That, my friends, is propaganda, which we were trying to define in earlier threads.

“””Key Details of the Incident:
The Attack: The USS Vincennes, under Captain William C. Rogers III, fired two surface-to-air missiles at the A ...[text shortened]... k today, please use this as an example of propaganda. You’re seeing it in the making…. a rare sight.
It's an example of the truth which you hate.

The plane would have never been shot down IF the US hadn't meddled in Iraq's favor in the war it started against Iran..


@shavixmir said
Yeah. Sure, I pick tulips.
At the same time, you don’t seem to address the points I make.

Why is that? Can you not comprehend the larger picture? Or does it just make you feel uncomfortable?
“Dude, the only reason the US joined WW2, was because the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour.
It had nothing to do with Hitler and his

Is this the one, you wrote several. I only avoid silliness.
This will give you the history that happened.
Pearl Harbor started the war with Japan. Then Hitler declared war on the U.S. three days later. That’s why it became a world war.
You are a mess, dude.