Originally posted by kyngjYeah, that post wasn't all direceted at you, I switched what I was talking about part way in. My trains of thought have no rails.
Sorry, my intention wasn't to trash schools either public or private, rather to trash the viewpoint, I didn't realise he'd gone to a public school (as did I) until I reread the thread.
Yes, new strains are not new species true, but the process by which they become new strains is the same process by which new species develop, just chose to illustrate my p ...[text shortened]... mpossible, especially when the foundation for the opposing argument is palpably a house of cards
The new strains isn't a big thing, I just tend to nit pick anything involving bacteria, viruses, parasites, etc more than normal.
Genome wasn't directed at you but its a great book isn't it?
Originally posted by PalynkaVewing the way nations in the last thousand years have risen to
ID and creationism are obscurantism, not science.
world power status and then fallen back, Portugal, France, England,
now the US, what we (unfortunately for us here in the us) is the
decline of yet another great power. You will see this decline proceed
in the coming decades, countries like India, China, Brazil, start to
make their presence more known on the world scene.
Now you are seeing the literal decline in american science, now more
papers are being written abroad, we no longer have the edge in
technology, witness the pullout of the US in the ITER (International
TEst Reactor, the next step on the way to tame fusion for power)
First they pulled out, then came back in with a desultery attitude,
I don't think the US really wants advanced technology like fusion,
I think we are too tied to oil with big oil interests controlling the
US government. It already happened in big steel, here north of
Philly where I live I saw the decline and fall of the last big steel
companies, Bethleham Steel, now a wasteland and about to be turned
in to casio's. Bethleham made a frightfully stupid decision to not
upgrade the steel producing furnaces to the latest technology which
naturally was not from the US but Germany. The germans upgraded
to more effiecient systems and bethleham doggedly pursued their
outmoded technology only to find out a few years later they could no
longer compete with the cheaper steel coming out of germany and
japan. And so it goes. America retreating into superstition, dragging
creationism and its poor brother "intelligent' design into a large
number of schools. You see the looting and armed thugs in
New Orleans when a real disaster strikes. You see an incredibly
stupid president trying to finish what daddy didn't finish and so
started a war in a country only periferally associated with ben laden.
You see a space program, formerly a source of joy and momentous
discovery, deteriorate into two crashed shuttles due to fatal design
problems hitting them since day one. The shuttle was promised
early on to cut the cost of space travel in half or better because
it was a reuable craft, only to find each launch costs a hell of a lot
more than any disposable craft would have. They designed the
shuttle with the engines higher than the shuttle, a major design
flaw allowing stuff to crash down on the wings even when the shuttle
lands ok. Now they know the next version has to have the main
craft on top of the assembly. They had a design for a much more
reliable skin which would have replaced the thermal tiles but
that design was rejected to make more money available for the
international space station so ten people are dead because of that
fateful decision. The original design for the booster was a single
piece unit but they decided they didn't want the headache of
transporting such a large thing across the country so went with a
two piece unit with connectors, we all know what happened with that
bozo decision. And on and on and on it goes. Wastefull decision
after wasteful decision after oil company bought presidents making
deadly environmental choices for short term gains and who gives a
damn about the grandkids, I get my forty million dollar pension NOW.
So you see creationism vying for space in a classrom supposedly
devoted to the 'truth', its just another symbol of the fall of the US.
Originally posted by celticcountryI learned evolution, and Buddhism, Hinduism, and everything except for Christianity. The closest things we came to learning about Christianity was how Christians morphed the Arthur and Grail stories from Celtic cauldron mythology.
I read recently that the theory of evolution is Banned in American teaching venues.