A statement as meaningless as a homemade cell phone video on you tube.
Why say something so meaningless?
Why plaster a cell phone video of your friend lip-synching to the words of the latest release from America's latest "Idol" all over the internet?
When you utter the most inane banalities, free speech may suffer.
Unfortunately, I think that is what may happen here. The US Supreme Court chooses it's docket. There is no reason to hear this case unless they intend to limit the decision of the 9th Circuit and limit the freedom of speech this country has long enjoyed.
Had the kid held up a sign that said "legalize it" or "John 3:16," I don't think that there is any question that the statement would have been viewed as protected free speech.
Instead he emblazoned his banner with the most inane banality his drug-addled, Bam-empowered, MTV brain could conjure.
Save those Time Magazine covers, you tubers. Years from now when they ask you who killed free speech, you can gaze into it accusatorily.
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Originally posted by Red Nighthttp://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ehr7t_EMU4wgLM:http://online.wsj.com/media/juneau.jpg
A statement as meaningless as a homemade cell phone video on you tube.
Why say something so meaningless?
Why plaster a cell phone video of your friend lip-synching to the words of the latest release from America's latest "Idol" all over the internet?
When you utter the most inane banalities, free speech may suffer.
Unfortunately, I think that s from now when they ask you who killed free speech, you can gaze into it accusatorily.
I saw the story on the news this morning. I don't agree with the young man's message, even though I have smoked pot (Once, and I didn't inhale it 😉 ) And I am a Christian. I was surprised that his church appearently backs him up. 😕
Originally posted by Red NightSarcasm?
A statement as meaningless as a homemade cell phone video on you tube.
Why say something so meaningless?
Why plaster a cell phone video of your friend lip-synching to the words of the latest release from America's latest "Idol" all over the internet?
When you utter the most inane banalities, free speech may suffer.
Unfortunately, I think that ...[text shortened]... s from now when they ask you who killed free speech, you can gaze into it accusatorily.
I've been led to believe you're responsible for attempts to repress free speech on this site.
Originally posted by Ice Coldi am christian too
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ehr7t_EMU4wgLM:http://online.wsj.com/media/juneau.jpg
I saw the story on the news this morning. I don't agree with the young man's message, even though I have smoked pot (Once, and I didn't inhale it 😉 ) And I am a Christian. I was surprsied that his church appearently backs him up. 😕
are you telling me that some guy smoked pot in the name of jesus?
that's not right
Originally posted by Red NightIs it not just like public access TV on the net ? I thought America was used to that kind of monkey spit.
A statement as meaningless as a homemade cell phone video on you tube.
Why say something so meaningless?
Why plaster a cell phone video of your friend lip-synching to the words of the latest release from America's latest "Idol" all over the internet?
When you utter the most inane banalities, free speech may suffer.
Unfortunately, I think that ...[text shortened]... s from now when they ask you who killed free speech, you can gaze into it accusatorily.
The other option would be selective broadcast, maybe some voting system like "the Gong show" would be the answer.
Originally posted by Ian68I am a fan of free speech who believes that people should moderate their own behaviour and act responsibly. That includes:
Sarcasm?
I've been led to believe you're responsible for attempts to repress free speech on this site.
1. Not engaging in explicit sexual conversations with children on this site.
2. Not unduly harassing their fellow humans on this site.
Originally posted by Red NightI do have a few concerns of my own actually.
I am a fan of free speech who believes that people should moderate their own behaviour and act responsibly. That includes:
1. Not engaging in explicit sexual conversations with children on this site.
2. Not unduly harassing their fellow humans on this site.
Specifically people using this site to try and 'pick someone up'. Unfortunately a recent blatant example of this is now up to 200 posts.
And of course if the person doing the 'picking up' has dubious intentions, i.e. something other than what would be considered a normal relationship, then that too probably counts as harassment.
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Originally posted by Red NightEdit: Someone beat me to it. 😕
A statement as meaningless as a homemade cell phone video on you tube.
Why say something so meaningless?
Why plaster a cell phone video of your friend lip-synching to the words of the latest release from America's latest "Idol" all over the internet?
When you utter the most inane banalities, free speech may suffer.
Unfortunately, I think that s from now when they ask you who killed free speech, you can gaze into it accusatorily.
Originally posted by Ian68That sort of thing used to go on all of the time in "Meet Opponents." Fortunately, that forum was closed at the same time the "Wrecked System" was done away with.
I do have a few concerns of my own actually.
Specifically people using this site to try and 'pick someone up'. Unfortunately a recent blatant example of this is now up to 200 posts.
And of course if the person doing the 'picking up' has dubious intentions, i.e. something other than what would be considered a normal relationship, then that too probably counts as harassment.
Originally posted by rubberjaw30http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11767029/
i am christian too
are you telling me that some guy smoked pot in the name of jesus?
that's not right
Updated: 2:19 p.m. MT Aug 29, 2006
JUNEAU, Alaska - Former Whitewater special counsel Kenneth Starr petitioned the U.S. Supreme Court to take up Alaska’s “Bong Hits 4 Jesus” case, a dispute involving a high school student, a banner and a tough school policy.
Starr, who gained national prominence while investigating former President Clinton’s Whitewater land deal and relationship with Monica Lewinsky, filed the petition Monday on behalf of the Juneau School District in response to a March ruling by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
The appeals court sided with a high school student who displayed a banner reading “Bong Hits 4 Jesus” during an Olympic torch relay in 2002. It ruled former Juneau-Douglas High School principal Deborah Morse violated former student Joseph Frederick’s free speech rights.
The U.S. Supreme Court petition must receive a minimum of four of the nine justices’ votes to be heard.
Frederick, then a senior, was off school property when he hoisted the banner but was suspended for violating the school’s policy of promoting illegal substances at a school-sanctioned event.
“The principal’s actions were so outrageous, basically leaving school grounds and punishing a student for a message that is not damaging to the school,” said his attorney, Doug Mertz.
Superintendent Peggy Cowan said clarification is needed on the rights of administrators when it comes to disciplinary action of students who break the district’s drug message policy.
“The district’s decision to move forward is not disrespectful to the First Amendment or the rights of students,” she said. “This is an important question about how the First Amendment applies to pro-drug messages in an educational setting.”
Originally posted by Red NightCan you see how those two things have had limited effect ?
That sort of thing used to go on all of the time in "Meet Opponents." Fortunately, that forum was closed at the same time the "Wrecked System" was done away with.
The meet opponents thing was a disgrace, and at least here, they can be put down quick (to an extent), and as far as the rec thing is concearned.....well, the spirituality forum seems to get most of the recs now, so i'm not sure if that is bad or good really.