Originally posted by no1marauderWell it appears I was proven wrong but at the same time I feel somewhat vindicated considering it went into overtime.
Considering how poorly LSU's defense has played in the big games this year (giving up over 50 points in losses to both Florida and Georgia), I'd be surprised if they beat the Crimson Tide. I think Alabama makes it undefeated to the SEC Championship game but at this point I don't think they have enough firepower to handle the Gators.
As for Alabama playing the Gators, they need not even show up.
Edit: I am just glad Penn State and the entire Big Ten is out of the NC game considerations. They have had enough bad press as of late and we did not need to see another humiliation.
Originally posted by shortcircuitI want OSU to face USC again in the Rose Bowl. Don't get me wrong, I don't think OSU can beat them, rather, I just feel that they have nothing more to lose after getting humiliated by them earlier this year. In addition, we will see if they have progressed and, more importantly, perhaps they can use the game as a springboard for next years meeting during the regular season. If nothing else, it could be looked at as a scrimmage of sorts.
Well, now it pretty well appears it will be SEC vs Big 12 in the BCS final. USC is still on the outside looking in hoping for a bunch of miracles.
Originally posted by shortcircuitI don't know about "miracles". Oklahoma will probably be favored against Texas Tech in two weeks. Oklahoma still has to play at Oklahoma State and Texas still has to play at Kansas. The winner of the Big 12 South still has to play Missouri (probably); no slouch game.
Well, now it pretty well appears it will be SEC vs Big 12 in the BCS final. USC is still on the outside looking in hoping for a bunch of miracles.
Right now, I think Florida and USC are playing the best ball; I'm still not convinced that any of the Big 12 teams can play top flight defense. Texas Tech was certainly impressive tonight though.
Originally posted by no1marauderWhat you say is true, however, I don't believe Mizzou will beat whoever emerges from the Big 12 south. I also agree that Florida may be the team to beat from the SEC. That being said, I don't see how USC gets past all of the Big 12 teams without a string of miracle upsets. in either the SEC or the Big 12. Wouldn't you agree?
I don't know about "miracles". Oklahoma will probably be favored against Texas Tech in two weeks. Oklahoma still has to play at Oklahoma State and Texas still has to play at Kansas. The winner of the Big 12 South still has to play Missouri (probably); no slouch game.
Right now, I think Florida and USC are playing the best ball; I'm still no ...[text shortened]... ig 12 teams can play top flight defense. Texas Tech was certainly impressive tonight though.
The only hope USC has is for the Big 12 North representative (Mizzou) to win the Big 12 Championship and have the other Big 12 South teams to have 2 losses.
Texas has to hope that OU beats Taco Tech and OSU beats OU inorder to represent the South. That isn't impossible, but it will require a bit of luck. If OU runs the rest of the schedule, then Texas will take a hit in SoS and OU will get a bump which should be enough to give OU the BCS edge.
Having said that, I don't know if OU can take Tech. OU has also been known to lose to OSU, especially in Stoolwater.
Originally posted by shortcircuitI just don't see these Big 12 games as "miracle upsets". I would agree that it's probable that even if USC wins outs, they'll need the Big 12 winner to have two losses. As for the SEC, I think USC might nudge out a 1 loss Alabama, but not a 1 loss Florida.
What you say is true, however, I don't believe Mizzou will beat whoever emerges from the Big 12 south. I also agree that Florida may be the team to beat from the SEC. That being said, I don't see how USC gets past all of the Big 12 teams without a string of miracle upsets. in either the SEC or the Big 12. Wouldn't you agree?
Originally posted by EladarThere's lots of interesting scenarios if Oklahoma beats Texas Tech. Suppose OU, TT and Texas ALL finish with one loss; who'll be highest in the BCS (the tiebreaker for who gets into the Big 12 Championship)? Suppose the South Champ then loses to Missouri; could one of the other two teams make it to the BCS Championship game?
The only hope USC has is for the Big 12 North representative (Mizzou) to win the Big 12 Championship and have the other Big 12 South teams to have 2 losses.
Texas has to hope that OU beats Taco Tech and OSU beats OU inorder to represent the South. That isn't impossible, but it will require a bit of luck. If OU runs the rest of the schedule, then Texas w ...[text shortened]... 't know if OU can take Tech. OU has also been known to lose to OSU, especially in Stoolwater.
Gotta love it (though a playoff would be nice).
If OU wins out, OU will have the highest BCS ranking. OU's strength of schedule is just too good.
OU has a couple of good teams in their OOC games: Cincy and TCU.
Neither Texas nor Tech can touch those two teams. OU will also have the advantage of losing earliest in the season. The human polls will put OU higher.
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Originally posted by EladarI doubt it. The human polls will consider that Texas beat Oklahoma by 10 points on a neutral field. That's why Texas is ahead of them now and if Texas wins out, they'll stay ahead of them (the OOC games are already factored in).
If OU wins out, OU will have the highest BCS ranking. OU's strength of schedule is just too good.
OU has a couple of good teams in their OOC games: Cincy and TCU.
Neither Texas nor Tech can touch those two teams. OU will also have the advantage of losing earliest in the season. The human polls will put OU higher.
EDIT: Maybe I'm wrong; for some strange reason OU is ahead of Texas in the human polls, but behind in the computers. And OU strength of schedule will go up significantly after playing Texas Tech and Oklahoma State. It doesn't seem like a very fair result however.
EDIT2: Texas is very far ahead of Oklahoma in the computer polls, however. Oklahoma is presently only 9th is tn the 6 computer poll average that the BCS uses, while Texas is 3rd and very close to Alabama and Texas Tech. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/BCSStandings
Originally posted by EladarHere's the "expert" who thought strength of scheduling doesn't count in the BCS any more and that Michigan "outplayed" Notre Dame while losing 35-17.
Sorry about that, you're right, it was Top 25. I was going on memory. If you don't remember making such a comment, go back and read this thread.
You're a joke; why don't you go back to Debates and keep peddling the death penalty for gays?
The fact is that in every stat other than the one that counts, Michigan did outplay Notre Dame. I know that's a football term that doesn't make sense for those who never played. I understand how you could be totally confused.
Did you bother to look and see where you claimed that ND should have been in the top 25?