Originally posted by mokkoI absolutely agree that truth is the best option in a situation like this. You've got everything to gain by sticking to the truth entirely, and I can't imagine his lies holding any water in court. If you have any character witnesses for yourself, or people who can testify about other times that he's been caught lying, that might help also.
I figure I have several courses of action open to me at this point. I could stoop as low his he has and use every little piece of information I have against him and even make stuff up as well (which won't hold water in the end) or I can simply rely on the facts and evidence to speak for me, or I can discover the power of the truth first hand.
I need to ha ...[text shortened]... I will be praying to whoever is listening for love and truth to overpower hatefullness and lies.
I hope you get well soon. What a terrible time to come down sick, with everything else that's going on. I know what you mean about children being used as pawns, and I've seen this happen with several friends of mine who have vindictive ex's. It simply isn't right for any adult to manipulate children and involve them in that way. I reckon that anyone who decides to have children needs to be prepared to remain committed to putting their welfare before anything else.
Your ex probably does need some counselling-related "help" of some sort or another, though whether he chooses to get some is another matter entirely. It sounds like he'd rather not be put under scrutiny in that way and will make up excuses to avoid it. So, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink, and ultimately you need to take care of yourself and the children first. Though I do think it's commendable the degree that you've still cared about what's best for him even as he's treated you so badly. I agree it'd be best for his relationship with your daughter for him to get help, but whether he does so is another matter entirely.
Get well soon!
Originally posted by karnachzThank you very much. Other than a tender tummy today all is back to normal. I have two older children from a previous relationship and their father as well as his parents are all willing to testify to my parenting and priorities as a parent, which I feel will be my greatest asset. They have dealt with me for 10 yrs as a mother and despite some problems my ex had in the past his children were never denied to him.
I absolutely agree that truth is the best option in a situation like this. You've got everything to gain by sticking to the truth entirely, and I can't imagine his lies holding any water in court. If you have any character witnesses for yourself, or people who can testify about other times that he's been caught lying, that might help also.
I hope you ...[text shortened]... ghter for him to get help, but whether he does so is another matter entirely.
Get well soon!
I am requesting the court order anger management as well as a spousal abuse course and parenting after seperation. I'm hoping that even though forced it will provide him with information and hopefully the realization of his problem. I feel for his situation and in knowing his history throughout his own childhood can see clearly where his anger stems from.
A child never asks to be brought into this world. A baby never asks to be born into turmoil. I'm beggining to be of the opinion that temporary steralization of all human beings become mandatory until it can be proven through rigorous testing that a person has the emotional stability to raise a child.
And we wonder why so many adults can't seem function in the world. We are all products of our enviroment.
Originally posted by mokkoThey get what's coming to them in the end.
How the heck does anyone function in this world when dealing with chronic liars. Not only chronic liars in the harmless sort of white lie type either. I mean viscous, life altering absolutely outragous lies! I'm at my wits end in dealing with someone elses out right lies. The worst part is I have no choice but to listen to these evil words of twisted dementia. ...[text shortened]... evail or do liars actually get anywhere in life with their complete and total BS all the time?
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomSo far.
ive gotten away with a lot of things
[soapbox] We all have. That doesn't mean that it will never come back to haunt you, or you'll never have to answer for it. And even if all you have is a collection of *little things* that you've gotten away with, that pattern has shaped you. If you keep doing things in the hopes of continuing to get away with them, eventually the whole package will come back to bite you, not just whatever the "last straw" was. Truisms, proverbs, cliches -- whatever you want to call them -- they got that way because they describe the collective lived experience.
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Originally posted by mokkoWho bumped this? Fricking hilarious.
How the heck does anyone function in this world when dealing with chronic liars. Not only chronic liars in the harmless sort of white lie type either. I mean viscous, life altering absolutely outragous lies! I'm at my wits end in dealing with someone elses out right lies. The worst part is I have no choice but to listen to these evil words of twisted dementia. evail or do liars actually get anywhere in life with their complete and total BS all the time?
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You must have been talking to yourself again when you posted this.