Originally posted by Squelchbelchi think you're the guy at parties who tells everyone how much alcohol is in their drink - and you're really proud of the fact that you know it. meanwhile, you're missing the party. truth be told, you just never see marijuana listed as a casue of death or contributing cause of death. people just don't smoke enough. killjoy. go police the ashtrays - i'm off to smoke two cigarettes and go to bed.
Well that's fairly rare I should think.
You still get plenty of carcenogens from your carbon monoxide amongst other chemicals in pure hash smoke.
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Originally posted by SickboySickboy: " ..... (it's far less destructive than alcohol)"
disagree. legality would cause competition to make it better. Just like booze. You can buy cheap booze or you can buy good booze.
But yes, it would make it more expensive.
Yes, I think it should be a legal, controlled substance just like alcohol (it's far less destructive than alcohol).
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http://www.rcgp.org.uk/default.aspx?page=2264
Royal College of General Practitioners:
Cannabis and the general practitioner – going to Pot
Summary of adverse effects of cannabis [xxi]
Acute effects
Anxiety and panic, especially in naive users.
Impaired attention, memory, and psychomotor performance while intoxicated.
Possibly an increased risk of accident if a person drives a motor vehicle while intoxicated with cannabis, especially if used with alcohol and tranquilisers.
Increased risk of psychotic symptoms among those who are vulnerable because of personal or family history of psychosis.
Increase risk of low birth weight babies if smoked in pregnancy.
Chronic effects (uncertain but most probable)
Chronic bronchitis and histopathological changes that may be precursors of malignant disease.
A cannabis dependence syndrome characterised by an inability to abstain from or to control cannabis use, craving and tolerance to the physical and mental effects of the drug. The risk of dependence is estimated at less than 20% if the drug is taken more than five times and 10% for those who have ever used. Between 15-30% of users report difficulty in controlling their use and withdrawal symptoms are common in this group.
Subtle impairments of attention and memory that persist while the user remains chronically. intoxicated, and this may or may not be reversible after prolonged abstinence .
Possible adverse effects (to be confirmed).
Increased risks of cancers of the oral cavity, pharynx and oesophagus: leukaemia among the offspring exposed in utero.
Impaired educational attainment in adolescents and under-achievement in adults in occupations that require high-level cognitive skills.
Groups that are at higher risk of experiencing these adverse effects:
Adolescents with a history of poor school performance, who initiate cannabis use in their early teens, are at increased risk of using other drugs and of becoming dependent on cannabis.
Women who continue to smoke cannabis during pregnancy may increase their risk of low birth weight babies.
People with schizophrenia, asthma, bronchitis alcohol and other drug dependence, whose illnesses are exacerbated by cannabis use.
Summary of effects in non-vulnerable individuals
Panic attacks
Toxic psychosis
Functional psychosis
Summary of effects in vulnerable individuals
Individuals with mental disorder are at increased risk of misusing cannabis.
There is 4–6 times increase risk of cannabis misuse in schizophrenia.
Heavy use of cannabis is a probable risk factor for schizophrenia.
Cannabis use may worsen some symptoms of schizophrenia and increase the rate of relapse.
Heavy cannabis use may cause short term reversible cognitive impairments in adolescents.
Originally posted by primacideI smoke.
i think you're the guy at parties who tells everyone how much alcohol is in their drink - and you're really proud of the fact that you know it. meanwhile, you're missing the party. truth be told, you just never see marijuana listed as a casue of death or contributing cause of death. people just don't smoke enough. killjoy. go police the ashtrays - i'm off to smoke two cigarettes and go to bed.
I'm just not dopey enough to suggest that smoking j's is some kind of healthier option, for the reasons I gave earlier.
If you want to justify smoking hash, do so because it's fun & doesn't harm others (unlike alcohol) unless you drive under the influence or something like that.
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Originally posted by ivanhoeYeah, smoking pot is bad for you. Yeah, drinking is bad for you. Yeah, smoking cigarettes is bad for you. Eating McDonald's is bad for you. Drinking too much Coca-Cola is bad for you. Birthday cake - bad for you. Bacon - bad for you. Too much coffee - bad for you. Are all things that are bad for you illegal? No. The truth is that marijuana is no better or worse than some of the socially acceptable drugs. I say legalise it and let the losers who can't handle themselves end up the way proper alcoholics or tobacco users do - dead. It's not for some government to say whether a person can or cannot, in the privacy of their own home, in their own time, do whatever they want so long as i doesn't directly harm anyone else.
Sickboy: " ..... (it's far less destructive than alcohol)"
Is it ?
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http://www.rcgp.org.uk/default.aspx?page=2264
Royal College of General Practitioners:
Cannabis and the general practitioner – going to Pot
Summary of adverse effects of cannabis [xxi ...[text shortened]... se.
Heavy cannabis use may cause short term reversible cognitive impairments in adolescents.
Originally posted by SquelchbelchI hate what has been recently named "the nanny state." The government is supposed to be representative - but how many people use marijuana despite the fact that it's illegal? Everyone I know, and I don't even go near it. Helmet laws for motorcycles are the same thing - it's my life. I'll decide to be careful with it or not as I see fit. Where everybody gets the idea that they can dictate the terms of another's private business is well beyond my comprehension...
I agree it should be fully de-criminalised but I just think people saying that it's not as bad for you as smoking normal cigarettes are deluded & have not thought their reasoning through.
Short version: agreed.
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Originally posted by Black TalonYes, but for consumption in private places only, private houses etc. Not pubs or clubs or even cafes. I support legalisation only to get rid of the organised crime involved with it as it is now, which would disappear overnight if trading became regulated by law.
Well, do ya?
I am otherwise opposed to legalisation.
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Originally posted by st00p1dfac3... and of course you are happy to pay for their health expenses.
Yeah, smoking pot is bad for you. Yeah, drinking is bad for you. Yeah, smoking cigarettes is bad for you. Eating McDonald's is bad for you. Drinking too much Coca-Cola is bad for you. Birthday cake - bad for you. Bacon - bad for you. Too much coffee - bad for you. Are all things that are bad for you illegal? No. The truth is that marijuana is n me, in their own time, do whatever they want so long as i doesn't directly harm anyone else.
Originally posted by ivanhoeI'm already paying for the rest of that crap. What's one more thing going to do? Plus I'm paying for losers who refuse to get jobs, people who think having another kid is the same as getting a pay rise, and a hundred other morons and freaks that can't or won't pay their own way in society. Why should I (the one who works and pays my taxes) be told I can't smoke a damn joint at night after dinner while watching telly as a way of relaxing? In Ireland I'm paying for other people's kids, and I don't believe in having kids. I'm paying for schools that I have no need of. I pay for police who do nothing. Yet I can be arrested because I want to spark a spliff? Don't put the medical costs issue out here, because I'm already getting screwed a hundred ways with that one, and getting zero benefit for it. Part of what I'm paying for is to put people who smoke pot and who sell pot in prisons, where the cost of keeping them is more than my annual salary. It sort of cancels itself out.
... and of course you are happy to pay for their health expenses.
BTW - I haven't smoked pot in years. Not because I have anything against it, but because I mainly just fall asleep.
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Originally posted by SerendipityESPECIALLY since tobacco is legal, and it KILLS by the hundreds of thousands each year. What's wrong with this picture?
If alchohol and tobacco is legal, then why not
The anti-grass campaign has taken on a right wing christian religeous tint is what is happening, it now is a religious issue and just like christianity, when that happens, you are supposed to put your reasoning power on a shelf and just trust them......
Originally posted by SquelchbelchYou do realise that you don't have to smoke weed/hash, don't you? 😕
Well...
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Unless you're a complete pot-head with insane amounts of cash or just daft, you probably mix a fair amount of tobacco in with your grass or resin or whatever. In fact tobacco probably makes up well over 50% of the J
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I bet you smoke the bifta without a filter eh? Ok... the healthy option so far 😉
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when you're ...[text shortened]... urself[/i] efforts over regular fags that I've missed out but hey - no-one's perfect! 🙂
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