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Originally posted by Freddie2006
If the act is unconsenting its rape whatever the age.
true but i believe that it would be classed as child abuse rather than simple rape

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Originally posted by Freddie2006
I don't know what its like in N. Ireland but its certainly not like that in London. As of the last 6 months or so, you need official identification; driving liscense, passport etc... no photocopies or student union IDs
What happens if the girl has a fake ID?
If it matters, can't the guy always say that she had a fake ID (after all, she was in a 18+ club)?

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Originally posted by MCA
true but i believe that it would be classed as child abuse rather than simple rape
nope. its called "statutory rape", just as it should .


I hate the term "Child pornography"


It should be called "Child Rape images"

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
nope. its called "statutory rape"
I am talking about unconsented sex!! its only stat. rape if they consent to it

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Originally posted by MCA
I am talking about unconsented sex!! its only stat. rape if they consent to it
den its rape.

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
I hate the term "Child pornography"


It should be called "Child Rape images"
rape is sex, right? porn isn't always sex.

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
den its rape.
yes - raping a minor (aka child abuse or molesting a child)

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Originally posted by Palynka
What happens if the girl has a fake ID?
If it matters, can't the guy always say that she had a fake ID (after all, she was in a 18+ club)?
My mate once got into a club by flashing her tits at the doorman, but now she's got no chance even though she's almost 18. You pretty much have to have proper ID. Of course its possible to get fake driving licenses, but the clubs are toughening up basically.

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Originally posted by MCA
true but i believe that it would be classed as child abuse rather than simple rape
"Simple rape"?!😲

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
the age of consent is 17 in Ireland, UNLESS THE DAIL CHANGED IT THIS WEEK
Incorrect.

Read the proposals on this site http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76358(Closest I can find).

"He is proposing to reduce the age of consent for girls from 17 to 16.
He is proposing to raise the age of consent for boys from 15 to 16.
He is proposing to equalise the age of consent for homosexual acts at age 16.
He is proposing for the first time to make it a criminal offence for a woman or girl to have sex with a boy.
He is also proposing a teenage sex clause to disallow consensual sexual acts between 2 teenagers where one is elder by no more than 2 years. "

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Originally posted by Freddie2006
"[b]Simple rape"?!😲[/b]
i think you know what i meant

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Originally posted by Freddie2006
My mate once got into a club by flashing her tits at the doorman, but now she's got no chance even though she's almost 18. You pretty much have to have proper ID. Of course its possible to get fake driving licenses, but the clubs are toughening up basically.
Sorry, I meant if you're accused of sex with a minor you had just met in such a club.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Sorry, I meant if you're accused of sex with a minor you had just met in such a club.
your original question does make me think:

what would happen if you did ask her for id, which she produced, but it then turned out to be fake??

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Originally posted by MCA
yes - raping a minor (aka child abuse or molesting a child)
raping a minor is statutory rape. which means its "rape" whether she consented or not