Originally posted by slimjimWhist I would not be a conscientious objector I would also not jump to conclusions about those who are. Do you consider Muhammad Ali has a yellow streak down his back (there are probably other examples but he is the one that I immediately thought of), especially when you consider there is no way they would have put him at risk, he would have been used as a media hype for the army rather than actually fight. Yet he still chose to stand by his principles, despite the fact I would tend not to agree with a conscientious objector in general it is hard not to admire him for standing up for his principles and giving up so much when it would have been so easy to go along with the flow.
Yeah well at least I served and don't have the yellow sreak down my back like you do. As far as my chess score is concerned I'm too busy out on the road making money to worry much about it. Tell the draft board that you are Gay if they have to scrape the barrel to draft you. You might have to get on your kness to prove it but, you should be used to living ong on your knees.
Originally posted by stevetoddConciencious objector?
Whist I would not be a conscientious objector I would also not jump to conclusions about those who are. Do you consider Muhammad Ali has a yellow streak down his back (there are probably other examples but he is the one that I immediately thought of), especially when you consider there is no way they would have put him at risk, he would have been used as a ...[text shortened]... his principles and giving up so much when it would have been so easy to go along with the flow.
How about complete WIMP? Poo pants or puff!
Can't kill, won't kill? Put him in a separate non-war situation where his instinct makes him fight for his life and then see where his principles lie.
What a load of codswallop...... π
Originally posted by mikelomIt is not very clear who you are referring to, but if it's Ali I think you will find that he was often in a non war sitaution when he fought and not only that he was for a time the best in the world at it too )in his chosen discipline of fighting).
Conciencious objector?
How about complete WIMP? Poo pants or puff!
Can't kill, won't kill? Put him in a separate non-war situation where his instinct makes him fight for his life and then see where his principles lie.
What a load of codswallop...... π
Originally posted by stevetoddDefinitely not referring to Ali......... π
It is not very clear who you are referring to, but if it's Ali I think you will find that he was often in a non war sitaution when he fought and not only that he was for a time the best in the world at it too )in his chosen discipline of fighting).
Originally posted by kmac27You obvioulsy have not seen enough horror films or films about maniacs! how many times have we seen the villian knocked down/stunned etc but then gets up to kill their victim who turns their back on them π
if forced to fight i would not kill. defending and attacking are two different things.
Originally posted by kmac27WW1 and WW2....... Were the British soldiers not defending our Homeland from attack? Under such circumstance they were forced to kill, were they not?
From the looks of it we are killing people over there. How do you declare that you are defending when you are controling an area that is not yours?
Answer the question please.....