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There's a whole lot of argument going on here but as far as I can tell no one has mentioned exactly what these new laws mean.
You can read for yourself here:
http://www.rules.house.gov/109/text/hr4437/109_hr4437_text.pdf
Here is a nice summary of the implications of the law:
http://www.ilrc.org/HR4437.php
Hope all you US citizens enjoy the fact that you can face imprisonment if you cannot present proof of your citizenship when pulled over for speeding. Land of the Free indeed.
Originally posted by reinfeldHave you ever had the privelege of meeting No1 Marauder?.....😉
i spent fifteen years as an immigration attorney...i know what i am
talking about..and the next 13 as a workers's compensation attorney...almost 25 years across the desk and in the courtroom with
illegal alien issues and lives...i doubt there is anyone on this site who
knows more about the issue than myself...and this subject does not
belong in the general forum...where are the moderators ?
Originally posted by XanthosNZFree to be a citizen....and all the privileges that come with citizenship. I remember travelling to Europe as a child and having to have a passport and some sort of ID carried with me at all times....seems we picked up some bad habits from Europe?
There's a whole lot of argument going on here but as far as I can tell no one has mentioned exactly what these new laws mean.
You can read for yourself here:
http://www.rules.house.gov/109/text/hr4437/109_hr4437_text.pdf
Here is a nice summary of the implications of the law:
http://www.ilrc.org/HR4437.php
Hope all you US citizens enjoy the fact ...[text shortened]... annot present proof of your citizenship when pulled over for speeding. Land of the Free indeed.
Originally posted by chancremechanicWhen was that? That wasn't the case when I was last in Europe (5 years ago). Was it just required when travelling between countries?
Free to be a citizen....and all the privileges that come with citizenship. I remember travelling to Europe as a child and having to have a passport and some sort of ID carried with me at all times....seems we picked up some bad habits from Europe?
Originally posted by chancremechanicSo you are comparing being required to have identification when travelling between countries to having to carry it at all times or face arrest?
Basically, yes, but it seems becoming the European Union changed all that......but, yes, definitely travelling between countries
Originally posted by XanthosNZNobody in the US has to carry ID, so it is a moot point. If it comes down to national security, a simple Iris check would suffice, if they ever get the technology for the masses...
So you are comparing being required to have identification when travelling between countries to having to carry it at all times or face arrest?
Originally posted by chancremechanicUnder the proposed law you would be in danger of being detained indefinately and possibly deported unless you are carrying proof of legal residency/citizenship.
Nobody in the US has to carry ID, so it is a moot point. If it comes down to national security, a simple Iris check would suffice, if they ever get the technology for the masses...
Originally posted by XanthosNZNo big deal; I've been carrying a driver license in my wallet for 29 years....my military ID for the last 16 years. If you can't get legal ID in the USA, you don't belong here. That is the purpose of the whole idea.....
Under the proposed law you would be in danger of being detained indefinately and possibly deported unless you are carrying proof of legal residency/citizenship.
Originally posted by chancremechanic"Nobody in the US has to carry ID, so it is a moot point."
No big deal; I've been carrying a driver license in my wallet for 29 years....my military ID for the last 16 years. If you can't get legal ID in the USA, you don't belong here. That is the purpose of the whole idea.....
Originally posted by chancremechanicWhat ID did you carry around prior to turning 15?
No big deal; I've been carrying a driver license in my wallet for 29 years....my military ID for the last 16 years. If you can't get legal ID in the USA, you don't belong here. That is the purpose of the whole idea.....