Originally posted by PeachyYup!
The greencard business is a joke:
"Every year the United States Government issues 50,000 Green Cards through the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program, the Green Card Lottery. Applicants are chosen randomly by a computer-generated drawing."
http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/greencardlottery.html
Yeap.. a LOTTERY!!
It's because the Republicans are in charge. All decisions are based on helping business make huge profits w/o having to pay American workers a fair wage. π
Originally posted by widgetMy great grandparents are Irish, If I get the story correctly, one step ahead of the lawπ If you want to rant about immigration, what about the part where the land was torn from the indigenes in the first place?
So who let you into where and when? π³ Or are you going to blame your presence on your parents?
Or about where Columbus wiped out and entire islands' population with the diseases he brought with him?
Originally posted by arrakisThanks arrakis! Absolutely so... π We seem to be more or less willfully trying to obscure the 'corporate profits' angle in the name of some half-hearted flag-waving and apologist revisionist history.
...All decisions are based on helping business make huge profits w/o having to pay American workers a fair wage. π
Kind of reminds me of the current US Administration's take on just about everything... π
Originally posted by widgetI'm adding you to my best friends list. π
Thanks arrakis! [b]Absolutely so... π We seem to be more or less willfully trying to obscure the 'corporate profits' angle in the name of some half-hearted flag-waving and apologist revisionist history.
Kind of reminds me of the current US Administration's take on just about everything... π[/b]
Originally posted by corp1131Excellent point......
The Mexicans only get paid those low wages because greedy [b]AMERICAN companies are willing to pay them. If AMERICAN buisnesses stopped employing illegal immigrants, then no mexicans would want to work in America, because there would be no work. (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=walmart)[/b]
Originally posted by jareyesNobody is calling me racist, but when you put up the KKK website, I have to counter with the racist Mexican websites so nobody thinks that Mexicans CANNOT be racist as whites can be.....dude.....π
Who is calling you racist, dude?
I did in other thread, as long as I remember, haha...
... but not in this one... you are putting yourself a jacket is not for you. But you did, so it means you... ehem... well, figure it out on your own.
Now, I think is dumb to go over again on the matter we already discussed, but it is CHILDISH to say all Mexican ...[text shortened]... born in Cedars Sinai, btw. Arguments are arguments, good or bad, racist or not, by its own.
Originally posted by jareyesGood point.....recc'ed
I agree... plus many other causes.
The least guilty here are 'John Doe' and 'Juan Garcia' -plain vanilla American workers and Mexican immigrants.
If everybody would do their job in a legal, ethic manner [including American employers and MX government] we would be normal neighbors with less problems.
Originally posted by widgetI agree with that point of view......
Why are so many opinionated contributors to this thread willfully ignoring the role of the US government pandering to US industry looking for cheap labour by turning the other way π (Not you, jareyes...)
Not to get too Marxist... but this is all about corporate greed and profits. Not individuals & in-laws.... π
Originally posted by chancremechanicHow can Mexicans fail to be racist? π Living next-door to the Excited States?
... I have to counter with the racist Mexican websites so nobody thinks that Mexicans CANNOT be racist as whites can be.....dude.....π
Notwithstanding which, we're actually agreeing about something, Cancer! *goes to check meds* π΅
Originally posted by widgetI don't think you have seen much in the way of turning a blind eye. Ever visit Egypt? There you have 6 year old kids working their butts off day in and day out making rugs for rich folk. They get almost zero for their work yet they think they are the lucky ones, starting their own sweat shop when they are 13 because now they are too old to do the intricate stitchwork. I saw one with my own three eyes!
Why are so many opinionated contributors to this thread willfully ignoring the role of the US government pandering to US industry looking for cheap labour by turning the other way π (Not you, jareyes...)
Not to get too Marxist... but this is all about corporate greed and profits. Not individuals & in-laws.... π
Originally posted by Ragnoraki have spent many years dealing with illegal aliens and their work
So its just a coincidence that all the workers in americas meat factories, working in lethal conditions are nearly all illegals? Would you like to work in conditions where you have the biggest chance of getting injury? By hiring mostly illegals, the meat packing corporations know that they can't get sued when people get injured due to the conditions of th ...[text shortened]... against the root of the problem, the government.
D
BTW: Why is this in General?
conditions...the meat packing industry is not full of lethal conditions
unless you of course count the accidental slipping on a bloody surface
or cutting a tendon with a knife ( and then workers's compensation
kicks in )...sinclair lewis was a century ago...
Originally posted by sonhouseI am reminded of the parents of some friends who owned and operated a large apartment/condo complex near El P**o, Texas. π³ When the current crop of gardeners and housekeepers who came in either daily or semi-annually across the line from J****z grew too demanding - wages? ...benefits? ... enough to live on for themselves and their children?? ... well, then the parents/owners simply called in the Immigration & Border Police to clear them out and make room for a new set.
...I don't think you have seen much in the way of turning a blind eye.
It happened every six months or so, as I recall, and kept the complex's operating costs down.
i spent fifteen years as an immigration attorney...i know what i am
talking about..and the next 13 as a workers's compensation attorney...almost 25 years across the desk and in the courtroom with
illegal alien issues and lives...i doubt there is anyone on this site who
knows more about the issue than myself...and this subject does not
belong in the general forum...where are the moderators ?
Originally posted by reinfeldhave you been an alien yourself?
i spent fifteen years as an immigration attorney...i know what i am
talking about..and the next 13 as a workers's compensation attorney...almost 25 years across the desk and in the courtroom with
illegal alien issues and lives...i doubt there is anyone on this site who
knows more about the issue than myself...and this subject does not
belong in the general forum...where are the moderators ?