Originally posted by Red NightThose are the ones that pi$$ me off. The parents, not the kids, although the kids pi$$ me off, it's not their fault. The parents insist on sending the kids to schools they can barely afford and then instill this idea in the kids that they have to pay the parents back by working as hard as they possibly can (not a bad thing), but this often leads to some kind of brainwashing, by which the kid ends up obsessed with good grades, and seems to think that school is the only thing that matters. There's more than one type of education, and the one we go to school for is certainly not the most important one.
middle and lower-middle class kids that got there on merit with overly intrusive parents driving them.
Originally posted by PalynkaLike I said, although I wouldn't mind my kid reading the posts, I would hope that if they saw something that they didn't understand, they would ask me about it. And if they didn't ask me, I would hope to speak to them about it to see what their opinions on things were, and try to teach them something. There is always something a kid can learn from any situation, whether it be a maths lesson at school or someone talking about paedophilia in the forums. If I had a kid I would probably direct them to the paedophilia thread in debates atm and ask their opinion on it.
Why would you keep a weary eye on the forums?
Originally posted by Freddie2006For me it's mostly the rich kids that piss me off. Everything in life is given to them without any effort and they a large percentage of them are spoiled brats with contempt for teachers or those that do study, in general.
Those are the ones that pi$$ me off. The parents, not the kids, although the kids pi$$ me off, it's not their fault. The parents insist on sending the kids to schools they can barely afford and then instill this idea in the kids that they have to pay the parents back by working as hard as they possibly can (not a bad thing), but this often leads to some ...[text shortened]... ne type of education, and the one we go to school for is certainly not the most important one.
It's a big effort on the parent to pay and send a kid to a good private school so, yes, they are entitled to demand a little effort from the kid. The kid can have fun, drink and smoke pot as much as he likes, as long as that doesn't affect his grades at school. It's not incompatible, I always did both.
A kid that nags about his parents wanting a little feedback from their effort, doesn't deserve the effort his parents put into it.
Originally posted by Freddie2006In a couple of years we'll probably move a computer into her room. Maybe even sooner.
If I were in your situation, I'd probably give her the computer in her room, but insist on being able to monitor what she looks at if you feel like it. It won't serve any purpose having a parent looking over a kid's shoulder all the time, especially when they are at an age when they want to start learning about things they may be embarressed for you to k ...[text shortened]... portant for kids to learn about everything, not just things parents feel they should know.
RHP? She doesn't like chess.
(Funny story, they had a Chess Class at her school in 4th grade. It was taught by Dean Ippolito. I encouraged her to take the class. It was after school one day a week. They gave her homework. I helped her with her "Chess Homework" She get straight A's, the only one in her class. One day she brought home her home work and it was the toughest chess problems I've ever seen. I was only able to do about half of them. I'm convinced that Dean figured out that my Daughter was getting help at home and sent those problems home to teach me a lesson!)
I've heard a number of people say that this is more of a Forum site than a Chess site. Even people who are mods and admins have said that or something similiar to me.
I don't mind her being in forums, but I would rather it was with kids closer to her own age. I'm very uncomfortable with some of the conversations that go on here between 46 year olds and 14 year olds.
(I'm not trying to criticize you, but I would not have made the comment that you just made to the 14 year old. I'm not even sure that I was all that pleased with my comment to him/her.)
If she liked chess, I'd buy her an account at ICC and get her some lessons from Larry Christenson or one of the others.
Originally posted by Freddie2006I agree, but that doesn't sound like what I had in mind when you said you'd keep a weary eye on the forum.
Like I said, although I wouldn't mind my kid reading the posts, I would hope that if they saw something that they didn't understand, they would ask me about it. And if they didn't ask me, I would hope to speak to them about it to see what their opinions on things were, and try to teach them something. There is always something a kid can learn from any si ...[text shortened]... ld probably direct them to the paedophilia thread in debates atm and ask their opinion on it.
Originally posted by PalynkaI'll pay for my kids to go to a good school (if I can), but as long as they take something out of it, and that doesn't have to be good grades, I'll be happy. For example, my parents have paid for private education all my life, and throughout it I got alright grades, and then, in the last 5 years, I started using the theatre facilities at my school, which has a great theatre. So I got more and more involved, and as I did so, my grades dropped a bit, namely because I was spending so much time doing something that I enjoyed so much. And yes, my parents did mind, but this year I got offered a place to what could be considered the most prestigeous theatre school in England (on a course that take something like 20 applicants out of 1,000). So, although I didn't achieve straight As or go to Oxford or Cambridge, I got a place at a great university, and if my parents hadn't paid for me to go to a school that could afford a theatre, I probably wouldn't have gotten involved.
For me it's mostly the rich kids that piss me off. Everything in life is given to them without any effort and they a large percentage of them are spoiled brats with contempt for teachers or those that do study, in general.
It's a big effort on the parent to pay and send a kid to a good private school so, yes, they are entitled to demand a little effort fr ...[text shortened]... ng a little feedback from their effort, doesn't deserve the effort his parents put into it.
Originally posted by Freddie2006We had this girl in our grammar school. She got all the best marks and was every teacher's favorite. She played violin.
Those are the ones that pi$$ me off. The parents, not the kids, although the kids pi$$ me off, it's not their fault. The parents insist on sending the kids to schools they can barely afford and then instill this idea in the kids that they have to pay the parents back by working as hard as they possibly can (not a bad thing), but this often leads to some ...[text shortened]... ne type of education, and the one we go to school for is certainly not the most important one.
Later on I heard that she moved to the US and shot herself when she was "only" second violin in the San Francisco Symphony.
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Originally posted by PalynkaEveryone has their own problems.
For me it's mostly the rich kids that piss me off. Everything in life is given to them without any effort and they a large percentage of them are spoiled brats with contempt for teachers or those that do study, in general.
It's a big effort on the parent to pay and send a kid to a good private school so, yes, they are entitled to demand a little effort fr ng a little feedback from their effort, doesn't deserve the effort his parents put into it.
I've seen rich kids that get pretty messed up.
"Don't hate the rich, you may be one some day."