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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Bavaria's going down...leaving Venice out on a limb. France & Aquitaine will close in. Not to mention the Northern alliance. At least that's what I think.
Depends on how good Venice is at the diplomacy part of things. He could be useful to any number of factions. Since France failed to give you passage, it suggests he's in league with Venice. Plus, isn't France fighting the North?

Saxony sure disappeared quick!

I suspect something like the following in the long run:

Eastern Alliance (EA)
Novgorod
Teutons
Byzantium
Lithuania
Egypt (Mamlukes)
Norway
Arles
Poland
Denmark

Western Alliance (WA)
England
France
Venice
Bavaria
Hungary
Castile
Aragon
Aquitaine
Saxony

I can't call Sicily. He could go either way with equal likelihood. Of course, all this is early speculation. There will almost certainly be surprises and personality clashes that change things. As far as I am concerned, I have plenty to do dealing with Roum for now.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Depends on how good Venice is at the diplomacy part of things. He could be useful to any number of factions. Since France failed to give you passage, it suggests he's in league with Venice. Plus, isn't France fighting the North?

Saxony sure disappeared quick!

I suspect something like the following in the long run:

[b]Eastern Alliance (EA)
...[text shortened]... that change things. As far as I am concerned, I have plenty to do dealing with Roum for now.[/b]
Hmm, I thought one of the members of the Baltic Combination mentioned to me that Bavaria will support us.

Also, Bosse probably won't have a future if the duke of Bavaria decides to move general Bloodcap and his knights to Swabia. Unless, ofcourse, Novgorod or TO or Denmark decides to help.

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Originally posted by schakuhr
Also, Bosse probably won't have a future if the duke of Bavaria decides to move general Bloodcap and his knights to Swabia. Unless, ofcourse, Novgorod or TO or Denmark decides to help.
Why would Bavaria choose to sacrifice his knights and general for the sake of eliminating me?

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Originally posted by schakuhr
It looks like your end is near. Venice won't stop the hunt.

Hafsids & Golden Horde are done, Morocco survived another turn. Saxony and Hungary are both on the brink on destruction. I don't think Hungary helped himself by calling Lithuania and the Byzantines "The Eastern Locust".

England's fleet was annihilated by brave men of the Red Eagle. They also ...[text shortened]... controlling the potatoes.

map: http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4856/mddipmapt80ks.jpg
Which of you geniuses in the "Eastern Alliance" came up with that fantastic idea to land in Strathclyde with 2 Nordic Warriors. I can really see them lasting long. And Norway...you coast looks a little empty if you see what I mean.

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Originally posted by Freddie2006
Which of you geniuses in the "Eastern Alliance" came up with that fantastic idea to land in Strathclyde with 2 Nordic Warriors. I can really see them lasting long. And Norway...you coast looks a little empty if you see what I mean.
Oh, it wasn't foreseen that it would've turned out that way (a few got killed in the sea battle), but it was precisely enough to beat your garrison. Fantastic, no?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Why would Bavaria choose to sacrifice his knights and general for the sake of eliminating me?

Because he doesn't want to lose a province? And it's just like Denmark says: if you hit France, you're dead, if you stay in Alsace, you're dead, and if you hit Swabia, you're dead.

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Originally posted by schakuhr
Oh, it wasn't foreseen that it would've turned out that way (a few got killed in the sea battle), but it was precisely enough to beat your garrison. Fantastic, no?
Awesome. I'm thoroughly astounded by their power and bow down at your fantastic planning. Its a shame that I started this war with Denmark, he is a a really nice guy, but he was a little annoyed when I promised him I would attack Saxony and ended up landing in Zeeland. At least he is a good opponent and not a total ass in war. This huge battle should be fun. Good luck Schak

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Originally posted by Freddie2006
Its a shame that I started this war with Denmark, he is a a really nice guy, but he was a little annoyed when I promised him I would attack Saxony and ended up landing in Zeeland. At least he is a good opponent and not a total ass in war.
It seems that you at least have the guts to call yourself a total ass in war. 😀

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Originally posted by schakuhr
Hmm, I thought one of the members of the Baltic Combination mentioned to me that Bavaria will support us.

Also, Bosse probably won't have a future if the duke of Bavaria decides to move general Bloodcap and his knights to Swabia. Unless, ofcourse, Novgorod or TO or Denmark decides to help.
What's the Baltic Combination? Who's killing Bavaria? Poland?

I need info on what's going on with Bavaria, Venice, Hungary, Lithuania, Poland, France. Anyone know?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
What's the Baltic Combination? Who's killing Bavaria? Poland?

I need info on what's going on with Bavaria, Venice, Hungary, Lithuania, Poland, France. Anyone know?
Bavaria attacked Poland (as far as I'm aware) with Hungary. Poland is beeing helped by Lithuania and Byzantium, so Hungary is pretty much dead. The only thing I know about Venice is that he wants Arles destroyed (and Bavaria wants that too). France is acting weird half the time. I don't know what he's going to do.

the Baltic Combination = Novgorod, TO, Denmark and me.

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Freddie, did you quell that potato uprising already? I'm having some trouble with my own. I think exporting them to Castile might be a good idea.

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Arles has been promised refuge by Novgorod. I am repeating the career of catfoodtim, except that I have chosen one side to align with, rather than vacillate between two.

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Originally posted by schakuhr
Freddie, did you quell that potato uprising already? I'm having some trouble with my own. I think exporting them to Castile might be a good idea.
Can I suggest keeping them for your men in Strathcylde, as you don't appear to have much of a route with which to supply them with.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Arles has been promised refuge by Novgorod. I am repeating the career of catfoodtim, except that I have chosen one side to align with, rather than vacillate between two.
Of course, I may be walking into a trap set up to get rid of me. I can't say.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Of course, I may be walking into a trap set up to get rid of me. I can't say.
Novgorod want you as ally so that you don't become friends with France.

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Originally posted by Freddie2006
Novgorod want you as ally so that you don't become friends with France.
France is a very dodgy monarch indeed.

Looks like we're on opposite sides, King Fred. b

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